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10-25-2017, 12:43 PM
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Re: Seconds of Pre Embryonic Life of Jesus Christ?
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7 To all that be in Rome, beloved of God, called to be saints: Grace to you and peace from God our Father, and the Lord Jesus Christ. 
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You are in error because you do not acknowledge that God is His Logos, and His Logos became flesh. ( John 1:1, John 1:14)
You teach there are two (maybe more) gods because you cannot accept the One True Almighty God conceived and implemented His Logos through Jesus.
Jesus is the Savior of mankind, yet God proclaims He is the ONLY savior. ( Hosea 13:4; Isaiah 43:11-13, Isaiah 45:21-22) And this salvation is available only through Jesus. ( Acts 4:12; John 8:24; John 14:6) Thus we have God is the only Savior and Jesus is the only Savior. Using your reasoning we would have two Saviors. But when one understands the meaning of God's Logos, then they realize that this Savior is simply One God implementing His Logos plan through Jesus, which is His Logos made flesh.
This is One God 101--simple stuff.
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The Bible is open to those that want Truth, and if they want Truth, they find Truth. They watch individuals squabble over Bible symbolism on the Internet, and leave the Message boards to enter into the real world where live people dwell, and they find Truth. The World Wide Web is full of Internet Ayatollahs who speak their mind. There is only one Truth, and it is not hidden. No matter what anyone says, Truth still converts the sincere.
-DD Benincasa, 12/06/03
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10-25-2017, 12:43 PM
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Re: Seconds of Pre Embryonic Life of Jesus Christ?
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 8 First, I thank my God through Jesus Christ for you all, that your faith is spoken of throughout the whole world. 
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You are in error because you do not acknowledge that God is His Logos, and His Logos became flesh. ( John 1:1, John 1:14)
You teach there are two (maybe more) gods because you cannot accept the One True Almighty God conceived and implemented His Logos through Jesus.
Jesus is the Savior of mankind, yet God proclaims He is the ONLY savior. ( Hosea 13:4; Isaiah 43:11-13, Isaiah 45:21-22) And this salvation is available only through Jesus. ( Acts 4:12; John 8:24; John 14:6) Thus we have God is the only Savior and Jesus is the only Savior. Using your reasoning we would have two Saviors. But when one understands the meaning of God's Logos, then they realize that this Savior is simply One God implementing His Logos plan through Jesus, which is His Logos made flesh.
This is One God 101--simple stuff.
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The Bible is open to those that want Truth, and if they want Truth, they find Truth. They watch individuals squabble over Bible symbolism on the Internet, and leave the Message boards to enter into the real world where live people dwell, and they find Truth. The World Wide Web is full of Internet Ayatollahs who speak their mind. There is only one Truth, and it is not hidden. No matter what anyone says, Truth still converts the sincere.
-DD Benincasa, 12/06/03
www.tkburk.com
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10-25-2017, 12:44 PM
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Re: Seconds of Pre Embryonic Life of Jesus Christ?
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2 Unto the church of God which is at Corinth, to them that are sanctified in Christ Jesus, called to be saints, with all that in every place call upon the name of Jesus Christ our Lord, both their's and our's:
3 Grace be unto you, and peace, from God our Father, and from the Lord Jesus Christ. 
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You are in error because you do not acknowledge that God is His Logos, and His Logos became flesh. ( John 1:1, John 1:14)
You teach there are two (maybe more) gods because you cannot accept the One True Almighty God conceived and implemented His Logos through Jesus.
Jesus is the Savior of mankind, yet God proclaims He is the ONLY savior. ( Hosea 13:4; Isaiah 43:11-13, Isaiah 45:21-22) And this salvation is available only through Jesus. ( Acts 4:12; John 8:24; John 14:6) Thus we have God is the only Savior and Jesus is the only Savior. Using your reasoning we would have two Saviors. But when one understands the meaning of God's Logos, then they realize that this Savior is simply One God implementing His Logos plan through Jesus, which is His Logos made flesh.
This is One God 101--simple stuff.
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The Bible is open to those that want Truth, and if they want Truth, they find Truth. They watch individuals squabble over Bible symbolism on the Internet, and leave the Message boards to enter into the real world where live people dwell, and they find Truth. The World Wide Web is full of Internet Ayatollahs who speak their mind. There is only one Truth, and it is not hidden. No matter what anyone says, Truth still converts the sincere.
-DD Benincasa, 12/06/03
www.tkburk.com
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10-25-2017, 02:36 PM
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Re: Seconds of Pre Embryonic Life of Jesus Christ?
The spoken word was MADE flesh. It did not become flesh. Stick to the KJV.
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10-25-2017, 02:40 PM
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Re: Seconds of Pre Embryonic Life of Jesus Christ?
Some silly commentator, some centuries ago, said God became a man. To be exact, it all started in the fifth century. The commentary is the "explanation" for hundreds of "strange" verses that they had to ignore.
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10-25-2017, 02:42 PM
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Re: Seconds of Pre Embryonic Life of Jesus Christ?
This powerful commentary is called Hypostatic Union of God. It is unheard of in scripture but studied and quoted like scripture.
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10-25-2017, 02:46 PM
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Re: Seconds of Pre Embryonic Life of Jesus Christ?
H/U indoctrination is the downfall of the original doctrine of the Apostles, resulting in the great falling away. It was not just Trinity doctrine, but the H/U doctrine that explained the Trinity doctrine.
In the good 'ol 1st century, Jesus was proclaimed as an independent man(last Adam).
After 400 years, he lost his independence and his true identity.
2 Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:
3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.
H/U ideas started in gnosticism(Jesus was a spirit), which thinks like this....
2 Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that GOD is come in the flesh is of God:
3 And every spirit that confesseth not that GOD is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.
Spirit/flesh ideas turned into H/U doctrine, eventually.
Last edited by Sean; 10-25-2017 at 03:07 PM.
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10-25-2017, 03:20 PM
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Re: Seconds of Pre Embryonic Life of Jesus Christ?
....instead of the spoken word made flesh(1st century), we now see the Spirit(God) BECAME flesh.
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10-25-2017, 04:16 PM
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Re: Seconds of Pre Embryonic Life of Jesus Christ?
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The spoken word was MADE flesh. It did not become flesh. Stick to the KJV.
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This was asked you before when you asked the same silly question: Where does the Bible say the "SPOKEN WORD" was made flesh?
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The Bible is open to those that want Truth, and if they want Truth, they find Truth. They watch individuals squabble over Bible symbolism on the Internet, and leave the Message boards to enter into the real world where live people dwell, and they find Truth. The World Wide Web is full of Internet Ayatollahs who speak their mind. There is only one Truth, and it is not hidden. No matter what anyone says, Truth still converts the sincere.
-DD Benincasa, 12/06/03
www.tkburk.com
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10-25-2017, 04:18 PM
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Re: Seconds of Pre Embryonic Life of Jesus Christ?
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Some silly commentator, some centuries ago, said God became a man. To be exact, it all started in the fifth century. The commentary is the "explanation" for hundreds of "strange" verses that they had to ignore.
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That "silly commentator" was the Apostle John writing under the inspiration of God. You should be ashamed for being so disrespectful of the things of God.
You are in error because you do not acknowledge that God is His Logos, and His Logos became flesh. ( John 1:1, John 1:14)
You teach there are two (maybe more) gods because you cannot accept the One True Almighty God conceived and implemented His Logos through Jesus.
Jesus is the Savior of mankind, yet God proclaims He is the ONLY savior. ( Hosea 13:4; Isaiah 43:11-13, Isaiah 45:21-22) And this salvation is available only through Jesus. ( Acts 4:12; John 8:24; John 14:6) Thus we have God is the only Savior and Jesus is the only Savior. Using your reasoning we would have two Saviors. But when one understands the meaning of God's Logos, then they realize that this Savior is simply One God implementing His Logos plan through Jesus, which is His Logos made flesh.
This is One God 101--simple stuff.
__________________
The Bible is open to those that want Truth, and if they want Truth, they find Truth. They watch individuals squabble over Bible symbolism on the Internet, and leave the Message boards to enter into the real world where live people dwell, and they find Truth. The World Wide Web is full of Internet Ayatollahs who speak their mind. There is only one Truth, and it is not hidden. No matter what anyone says, Truth still converts the sincere.
-DD Benincasa, 12/06/03
www.tkburk.com
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