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10-21-2017, 10:54 PM
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Re: Seconds of Pre Embryonic Life of Jesus Christ?
Sean answer the post!!!!
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10-21-2017, 10:55 PM
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Re: Seconds of Pre Embryonic Life of Jesus Christ?
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Mike?
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I answered that long ago, Sean.
That verse is not saying a MAN became GOD. John 1:14 says HIS BIRTH was GOD BECAME FLESH.
That verse in 1 Cor 15 is saying JESUS GIVES LIFE. Quickening Means GIVING LIFE. It contrasts Adam BEING GIVEN LIFE to the last man Adam GIVING LIFE.
Adam heard God say Eve would have a Son to crush the serpent's head. Adam therefore called her the mother of ALL LIVING. He somehow KNEW Jesus would GIVE LIFE that the devil robbed Adam and Eve of.
And because Heb 8:4 says He cannot be on earth as a man, we know 1 Cor 15:45 is not saying a MAN BECAME GOD, as if there was no man in existence any more. It means while Adam was a LIVING "SOUL", Jesus is a quickening "SPIRIT".
Sean did you know man is SPIRIT, SOUL AND BODY? 1 Thess 5:23?
And Adam's focus was HIS SOUL, whereas Jesus was HIS SPIRIT, and they each had spirit, soul and body?
Jesus commended HIS SPIRIT into God's hands as a man. And GOD TOOK THAT SPIRIT and made it LIFE GIVING. He did not turn a soul into a spirit. He did not turn a man into God. He made the LAST ADAM a life giving spirit, while the first adam was a life receiving soul.
Can you grasp the contrast?
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Re: Seconds of Pre Embryonic Life of Jesus Christ?
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TK, you silly man, and DB, you are sillier.
You think Jesus is about your size, which eliminates the power of Col 2:9.
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Sean, does Jesus have a physical body? Yes, or NO?
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10-21-2017, 10:55 PM
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Re: Seconds of Pre Embryonic Life of Jesus Christ?
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We are not fully indwelled of the Godhead, bodily.
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So, we are receiving a diluted Godhead filled Jesus and not 100% of Him?
So, Christ in us is not really "Christ", but instead some other, what? Spirit"? God? Or what??
Also, please cite your Bible's Book, chapter, and verse for this.
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10-21-2017, 10:56 PM
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Re: Seconds of Pre Embryonic Life of Jesus Christ?
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Sean, you posted that one omnipresent being couldn't fit into a human unless that human was resurrected. So, how does two omnipresent beings fit into us?
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Again, you and I dont get Col 2:9.
Sorry, God reserved it for His only begotten son.
You only get a portion.
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Re: Seconds of Pre Embryonic Life of Jesus Christ?
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Sean, does Jesus have a physical body? Yes, or NO?
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45 And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit.
Thou sayest.
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10-21-2017, 10:57 PM
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Re: Seconds of Pre Embryonic Life of Jesus Christ?
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TK, you silly man, and DB, you are sillier.
You think Jesus is about your size, which eliminates the power of Col 2:9.
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What is ridiculously silly is thinking Col 2:9 is talking about PHYSICAL SIZE! You really cannot understand that Col 2:9 is talking about ALL THE QUALITIES OF DEITY are found in Jesus, and that is not talking about SIZE?
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Re: Seconds of Pre Embryonic Life of Jesus Christ?
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if there's any conscience at all left in the man, he has to be bothered by his own words now.
Lord, help us.
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His conscience is cooked.
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10-21-2017, 10:58 PM
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Re: Seconds of Pre Embryonic Life of Jesus Christ?
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I answered that long ago, Sean.
That verse is not saying a MAN became GOD. John 1:14 says HIS BIRTH was GOD BECAME FLESH.
That verse in 1 Cor 15 is saying JESUS GIVES LIFE. Quickening Means GIVING LIFE. It contrasts Adam BEING GIVEN LIFE to the last man Adam GIVING LIFE.
Adam heard God say Eve would have a Son to crush the serpent's head. Adam therefore called her the mother of ALL LIVING. He somehow KNEW Jesus would GIVE LIFE that the devil robbed Adam and Eve of.
And because Heb 8:4 says He cannot be on earth as a man, we know 1 Cor 15:45 is not saying a MAN BECAME GOD, as if there was no man in existence any more. It means while Adam was a LIVING "SOUL", Jesus is a quickening "SPIRIT".
Sean did you know man is SPIRIT, SOUL AND BODY? 1 Thess 5:23?
And Adam's focus was HIS SOUL, whereas Jesus was HIS SPIRIT, and they each had spirit, soul and body?
Jesus commended HIS SPIRIT into God's hands as a man. And GOD TOOK THAT SPIRIT and made it LIFE GIVING. He did not turn a soul into a spirit. He did not turn a man into God. He made the LAST ADAM a life giving spirit, while the first adam was a life receiving soul.
Can you grasp the contrast?
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The Spirit became flesh?
Then the flesh became.....
45 And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit.....
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Re: Seconds of Pre Embryonic Life of Jesus Christ?
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Originally Posted by mfblume
I answered that long ago, Sean.
That verse is not saying a MAN became GOD. John 1:14 says HIS BIRTH was GOD BECAME FLESH.
That verse in 1 Cor 15 is saying JESUS GIVES LIFE. Quickening Means GIVING LIFE. It contrasts Adam BEING GIVEN LIFE to the last man Adam GIVING LIFE.
Adam heard God say Eve would have a Son to crush the serpent's head. Adam therefore called her the mother of ALL LIVING. He somehow KNEW Jesus would GIVE LIFE that the devil robbed Adam and Eve of.
And because Heb 8:4 says He cannot be on earth as a man, we know 1 Cor 15:45 is not saying a MAN BECAME GOD, as if there was no man in existence any more. It means while Adam was a LIVING "SOUL", Jesus is a quickening "SPIRIT".
Sean did you know man is SPIRIT, SOUL AND BODY? 1 Thess 5:23?
And Adam's focus was HIS SOUL, whereas Jesus was HIS SPIRIT, and they each had spirit, soul and body?
Jesus commended HIS SPIRIT into God's hands as a man. And GOD TOOK THAT SPIRIT and made it LIFE GIVING. He did not turn a soul into a spirit. He did not turn a man into God. He made the LAST ADAM a life giving spirit, while the first adam was a life receiving soul.
Can you grasp the contrast?
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