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10-15-2017, 07:35 PM
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Re: Seconds of Pre Embryonic Life of Jesus Christ?
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No I suggest He was spoken into existence as a sperm cell, that fertilized Mary's egg cell.
This way he was rightfully the son of God AND the son of man(kind).  |
WHO was spoken into existence as a sperm cell?
Sean, the word BECAME FLESH.
You are trying to tell us the WORD did not become anything, but rather the WORD MADE SOMETHING in this case. Do we read the WORD SPOKE A SPERM CELL INTO FLESH? Or do we read THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH?
The word SPOKE EVERYTHING into existence. But this case in John was WAS TOTALLY DIFFERENT. The thing that MADE EVERYTHING was ITSELF MADE INTO SOMETHING. You deny that?
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10-15-2017, 07:37 PM
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Re: Seconds of Pre Embryonic Life of Jesus Christ?
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Simple impasse.
I say God's spoken word was made flesh.
You say the Spirit God was made/became flesh.
Jesus said....
24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.
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Oh, so Jesus had to FIX something that NEEDED FIXING? Jesus had to FIX John 1:14 because there was something wrong with John 1:14?
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10-15-2017, 07:39 PM
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Re: Seconds of Pre Embryonic Life of Jesus Christ?
Right, the flesh was a sperm cell.
The word was made a sperm cell(flesh origin).
Which means, Jesus could not exist without the assistance of Mary.
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10-15-2017, 07:39 PM
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Re: Seconds of Pre Embryonic Life of Jesus Christ?
You're trying to say that GOD SPOKE a sperm cell into existence. Meanwhile the bible said GOD THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH.
It did NOT SAY the WORD MADE FLESH.
It said the WORD WAS MADE flesh.
You essentially REMOVED THE WORD "WAS" in verse 14!
John 1:14 KJV And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.
Your version takes away the word "WAS" and twists it to say:
John 1:14 KJV And the Word made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.
SEAN, DO NOT REMOVE THE WORD "WAS" from verse 14.
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10-15-2017, 07:40 PM
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Re: Seconds of Pre Embryonic Life of Jesus Christ?
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Oh, so Jesus had to FIX something that NEEDED FIXING? Jesus had to FIX John 1:14 because there was something wrong with John 1:14? |
24 God was made human: and they that worship me must worship me in spirit and in truth.
Is this what you think he meant?
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10-15-2017, 07:41 PM
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Re: Seconds of Pre Embryonic Life of Jesus Christ?
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Right, the flesh was a sperm cell.
The word was made a flesh sperm cell.
Which means, Jesus could not exist without the assistance of Mary.
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10-15-2017, 07:41 PM
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Re: Seconds of Pre Embryonic Life of Jesus Christ?
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Right, the flesh was a sperm cell.
The word was made a sperm cell(flesh origin).
Which means, Jesus could not exist without the assistance of Mary.
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Are you saying GOD WAS MADE A SPERM CELL?
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10-15-2017, 07:42 PM
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Re: Seconds of Pre Embryonic Life of Jesus Christ?
John 1:14 KJV And the Word made flesh (sperm cell), and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.
Right?
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Re: Seconds of Pre Embryonic Life of Jesus Christ?
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Are you saying GOD WAS MADE A SPERM CELL?
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The only other option is a implanted, fully pre-made fetus.
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10-15-2017, 07:44 PM
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Re: Seconds of Pre Embryonic Life of Jesus Christ?
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Right, the flesh was a sperm cell.
The word was made a sperm cell(flesh origin).
Which means, Jesus could not exist without the assistance of Mary.
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So if GOD was made a sperm cell, then JESUS WAS GOD at CONCEPTION!
Not when he resurrected. Right?
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