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10-14-2017, 02:52 PM
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Re: Seconds of Pre Embryonic Life of Jesus Christ?
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The O.T. was quoting Jesus on the cross, not Jesus quoting Psalm 22. |
In your haste to dismiss what I posted, you missed what I said here:
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It was God (Jesus) speaking into fulfillment that which He inspired David to prophesy.
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Hence, Jesus inspired what was written, and He then fulfilled what He inspired.
How could you miss that? 
See how truthfully representing what is actually said makes a difference, Sean?
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10-14-2017, 02:53 PM
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Re: Seconds of Pre Embryonic Life of Jesus Christ?
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16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten SELF, that whosoever believeth in HIMSELF(God) should not perish, but have everlasting life.
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Sean, if you were espousing a Trinitarian view of this scripture, at least you would be in agreement with MOST Bible believers and scholars who have lived over the last 2,000+ years.
Paul spoke of the foolishness of discussing "endless genealogies" because maybe he saw that it would take his young church to a place of heresy.
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Last edited by Jermyn Davidson; 10-14-2017 at 03:31 PM.
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10-14-2017, 03:16 PM
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Re: Seconds of Pre Embryonic Life of Jesus Christ?
Jesus Christ is the Son of GOD.
Jesus Christ is the Son of Man.
Jesus Christ is not the DEIFIED son of a man (or woman) and neither did He ever get to the point where "he" became a DEIFIED Man.
He was born the Son of GOD and He was born the Son of Man!
He was not born psychotic. He was not born a man who at some point became DEIFIED or became God, or became the Son of God, or became a man who lived under the direct influence of God.
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Jesus Christ is the Son of GOD. Examine the parallel between the story of Abraham and Isaac and the story between GOD and His Son Jesus Christ. Isaac was going to be a sacrifice because there wasn't another lamb for Abraham to use to offer up as a sin offering to GOD. At the last minute, GOD provided Abraham a lamb. However Jesus Christ is "the Lamb slain from the foundations of the world." The "L" in "Lamb" is capitalized because from "the foundations of the world, Jesus Christ IS GOD and it was the Will of GOD, the plan of GOD to offer His Son for our redemption "from the foundations of the world". This is why He could say that, "Before Abraham was, I AM." Jesus Christ IS the sin offering offered to GOD, by GOD, on our behalf, to cover the sins of the whole world.
To quote the KJV:
Isaiah 53:5
But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed.
Isaiah 53:10
Yet it pleased the LORD to bruise him; he hath put him to grief: when thou shalt make his soul an offering for sin, he shall see his seed, he shall prolong his days, and the pleasure of the LORD shall prosper in his hand.
St. John 1:10
This is he of whom I said, After me cometh a man which is preferred before me: for he was before me.
Jesus Christ is the Son of Man in a general sense-- mankind. The Son of Man references are not references to his human stepfather Joseph or his human mother Mary, who carried and gave birth to Him. In His humanity, the "body that was prepared for Him", He IS our link to GOD, "the mediator", "the Branch" on which we are "grafted in" by faith and adopted to be the sons [and daughters] of GOD.
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Last edited by Jermyn Davidson; 10-14-2017 at 04:47 PM.
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10-14-2017, 03:26 PM
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Re: Seconds of Pre Embryonic Life of Jesus Christ?
Jesus Christ was not the Samson, Elijah, Isaiah, or Jeremiah of the New Testament. Jesus Christ is not "one of the prophets" reborn and then killed in 33 AD. Jesus IS "the Christ, the Son of the Living GOD."
Why would you want a revelation deeper than the revelation that Jesus Christ said would be, "the Rock" on which "His Church would be built"?
"The gates of hell shall not prevail" against the revelation that Jesus is "the Christ, the Son of the Living GOD."
You are seeking "more" than what the Bible clearly offers, in pursuit of a mystery that is not fully explained in the Bible and you are looking like you are a member of an unbiblical cult because you are trying to make a doctrine out of something that the Bible does not express-- or even comes close to implying.
Your zeal for God has led you down the wrong path. Please repent.
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Last edited by Jermyn Davidson; 10-14-2017 at 04:17 PM.
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10-14-2017, 03:49 PM
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Re: Seconds of Pre Embryonic Life of Jesus Christ?
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Originally Posted by TK Burk
In your haste to dismiss what I posted, you missed what I said here:
Hence, Jesus inspired what was written, and He then fulfilled what He inspired.
How could you miss that?
See how truthfully representing what is actually said makes a difference, Sean? |
You think somehow that God was MAKING the cross happen to fulfill His will or word(Psalm22). No way, because God SAW it happen and was speaking of an event that transpired before the world began, as per Rev 13:8.
Jesus was not "God on a cross quoting scripture to His audience", pretending to be an individual with a God.
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10-14-2017, 04:10 PM
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Re: Seconds of Pre Embryonic Life of Jesus Christ?
I promise I am done editing my posts.
Ok. For real...
I really mean it this time....
Ok. This time, is the last time....
Well, I just can't help myself...
I give up...
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Last edited by Jermyn Davidson; 10-14-2017 at 04:36 PM.
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10-14-2017, 04:53 PM
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Re: Seconds of Pre Embryonic Life of Jesus Christ?
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Originally Posted by Sean
You think somehow that God was MAKING the cross happen to fulfill His will or word(Psalm22). No way, because God SAW it happen and was speaking of an event that transpired before the world began, as per Rev 13:8.
Jesus was not "God on a cross quoting scripture to His audience", pretending to be an individual with a God. |
Sean not only believes in two gods, but he also believes the Father doesn't control anything, he's just an observer. Sean is apparently a polytheistic Deist.
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10-14-2017, 05:09 PM
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Re: Seconds of Pre Embryonic Life of Jesus Christ?
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The "I Am" inside him left him on the cross before he died.
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Wait, didn't you say that He didn't have God in Him until AFTER the resurrection?
You know this is the problem with everything you believed. You yourself don't even have the foggiest idea what you believe. That's why no one else can figure it out. Listen, you believe in two separate gods. You are oneness as the Pope.
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10-14-2017, 05:15 PM
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Re: Seconds of Pre Embryonic Life of Jesus Christ?
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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa
Wait, didn't you say that He didn't have God in Him until AFTER the resurrection?
You know this is the problem with everything you believed. You yourself don't even have the foggiest idea what you believe. That's why no one else can figure it out. Listen, you believe in two separate gods. You are oneness as the Pope.
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He had his God inside him prior, but was fully indwelled bodily after.
Get it right, DB.
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10-14-2017, 05:19 PM
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Re: Seconds of Pre Embryonic Life of Jesus Christ?
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Originally Posted by Esaias
Sean not only believes in two gods, but he also believes the Father doesn't control anything, he's just an observer. Sean is apparently a polytheistic Deist.
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No, the last Adam would be a plain man today without the Col 2:9 effect to him.
He is fully indwelled, bodily of his God.
Get it right, and don't deny Jesus of his God, per scripture.
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