Christianity and the Vegas shooter

[aegsm76]

Good article by Pat Buchanan
link
http://www.wnd.com/2017/10/the-dead-...ephen-paddock/
snippets
Having chosen to end his life, Paddock resolved to go out in a blaze of publicity. This nobody would leave this life as somebody we would have to remember. He would immortalize himself, as did Lee Harvey Oswald.
In “The Brothers Karamazov,” novelist Fyodor Dostoevsky has his character Ivan say, “If God is dead, all things are permissible.”
What Ivan meant is that if God does not exist, the idea of God’s law, of heaven or hell as reward or punishment, is nonsense. And if it is, there is no man-made law that can deter men who have decided to “end it all.”
In Stephen Paddock, the conscience was dead. He was a dead soul, a moral nihilist, a post-Christian man in a post-Christian age, a monster.

One result of the "theory of evolution" was the German Third Reich.
I believe we are headed toward more and more of these happenings.
In the words of John Adams:
"Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious People. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other."

[Jermyn Davidson]

Originally Posted by aegsm76

Good article by Pat Buchanan
link
http://www.wnd.com/2017/10/the-dead-...ephen-paddock/
snippets
Having chosen to end his life, Paddock resolved to go out in a blaze of publicity. This nobody would leave this life as somebody we would have to remember. He would immortalize himself, as did Lee Harvey Oswald.
In “The Brothers Karamazov,” novelist Fyodor Dostoevsky has his character Ivan say, “If God is dead, all things are permissible.”
What Ivan meant is that if God does not exist, the idea of God’s law, of heaven or hell as reward or punishment, is nonsense. And if it is, there is no man-made law that can deter men who have decided to “end it all.”
In Stephen Paddock, the conscience was dead. He was a dead soul, a moral nihilist, a post-Christian man in a post-Christian age, a monster.

One result of the "theory of evolution" was the German Third Reich.
I believe we are headed toward more and more of these happenings.
In the words of John Adams:
"Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious People. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other."

Pat Buchanan trying to rally troops by appealing to our sense of Christianity-- toxic politics.

John Adams may have said what he said, but it doesn't mean he was right. There were several people involved with the Constitution who were Christians nominally (getting drunk Saturday but in church Sunday) and at least one atheist.

[aegsm76]

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson

Pat Buchanan trying to rally troops by appealing to our sense of Christianity-- toxic politics.

John Adams may have said what he said, but it doesn't mean he was right. There were several people involved with the Constitution who were Christians nominally (getting drunk Saturday but in church Sunday) and at least one atheist.

JD - so what did Buchanan say that you would disagree with?
And can you give me the names of the Christians and atheist that you are referring to?

[Aquila]

There really isn't a political answer.

We are witnessing the early stages of the collapse of American society.

[mfblume]

Originally Posted by Aquila

There really isn't a political answer.

We are witnessing the early stages of the collapse of American society.

That started in the 30s

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by mfblume

That started in the 30s

you are correct

[Jermyn Davidson]

Originally Posted by aegsm76

JD - so what did Buchanan say that you would disagree with?
And can you give me the names of the Christians and atheist that you are referring to?

Drunken Founding Fathers
George Washington
John Adams
Samuel Adams
and more...
https://www.thrillist.com/drink/nati...gton-jefferson


I was thinking of Ben Franklin as the atheist-- but I was wrong. Raised Presbyterian, he rejected most tenets of Christianity as an adult, but is considered to be a Deist.
http://www.celebatheists.com/wiki/Benjamin_Franklin

[houston]

Originally Posted by mfblume

That started in the 30s

What happened in the 30’s?

[houston]

Founding Father and U. S. Supreme Court Chief Justice John Marshall
[W]ith us, Christianity and religion are identified. It would be strange, indeed, if with such a people our institutions did not presuppose Christianity and did not often refer to it and exhibit relations with it.

[houston]

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson

John Adams may have said what he said, but it doesn't mean he was right. There were several people involved with the Constitution who were Christians nominally (getting drunk Saturday but in church Sunday) and at least one atheist.

You don’t like living in a Christian Nation?