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At least his name was used.  |
If it is going to purposefully maligned or mocked, it would be better to not use his name at all.
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Are you still harping about that?
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Explaining myself is not the same as "harping".
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To be fair, most of that "disarray" has been misinformation spread by the LSM (or it's been caused by them).
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This is just untrue.
Two people were forced to resign and register as "agents of a foreign country".
One person was fired.
Another person resigned.
One guy lasted 11 days as part of 45's team.
The MSM only reported on what was going on. No one else CAUSED these guys to do, to say, anything.
Isn't it LIBERALS who blame everything on somebody else?
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Yet Mr. "The police acted stupidly" gets a pass from you?
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The thing is, he fixed that situation. Invited the parties involved to the White House. He addressed his mistake. It would be different if he was OBSTINATE, like another President we know.
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I don't believe it will ever happen. That said, a wall has been planned since the 80's (maybe even sooner). It's not like Trump originated the idea. The Dems have just been putting it off, and the Repubs have been letting them do it. A wall should be built. Haven't you ever heard the phrase, 'Good fences make good neighbors'?
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A wall is an idiotic and financially inefficient way to address the problem. Why are you trying to defend an idea that most rational people realize is dumb?
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Have we ever had a president that was actually saved? Thus, all of them would be immoral.
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If Obama, Clinton or Carter had the background that 45 has, you better believe Dr. Dobson would be clamoring about how their personal histories make them unfit for representing America.
You might say, "Well they were." I would say, if they were immoral, then 45 is even more so in his immorality.
You can't directly defend 45 so you try to lower the bar of morality to a sense of relativism. CLASSIC conservative approach-- hardly consistent with their "moral indignation".
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I don't recall anyone here doing that. Do you have some links to the source of those comments?
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These things happened on this forum. Just ask Deacon Blues or maybe Houston or even Alicea. They might remember.
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What types of things?
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Ugliness not even worth mentioning.
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I never saw such a comment, but I surely would have if I had seen it. Again, do you have a link to said comment?
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No I don't but I assure you that I would not post and interact with you under my real name just to purposefully prove myself to be a liar.
It happened here. Maybe CH Tatum, Deacon Blues, Renda or Houston might remember.
Even if they don't remember, you have my solemnly affirmed word that it happened.
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While I never agreed with the birther movement (by the way, that whole thing started with the Clinton campaign, it was only propagated by Trump), I was certainly up for undermining his presidency, given all that he was attempting to foist upon us.
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Nice way to try to minimize what 45 doing in his attempt to undermine the legitimacy of Obama's presidency. Of course, his actions appealed to the part of the GOP that the GOP would rather ignore-- those same folks who helped to ensure the election of their ultra-nationalist and race-baiter in chief.
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Still not seeing where I should be morally outraged.
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Because you think it is ok to stifle a President instead of working with a President that was DEMOCRATICALLY ELECTED by our popular vote and electoral college. If he by-passed Congress to do anything, maybe it was because they were bent on making sure the President was a one-term President instead of working with the President for the good of our country! Remember when they let our country default on our loans? Classic cutting off your nose to spite your face! Gone are the days where we would seek to function as united states and now are the days where we would rather cut off our political nose just to spite our political face!
You would never think the way Mrs. Obama was disparaged and disrespected (somewhat on this forum but much more so throughout various conservative circles of people) was outrageous because you have demonized her, her family and your own fellow Americans who think differently from you to the point that you would rather see them humiliated and done away with than actually admit to yourself that MORE THAN HALF OF THE COUNTRY thinks in ways that are more congruent with their way of thinking.
Do you think it is ok to create rules and policies that make it more difficult for the people who think differently from you to vote too?
As long as the people being assaulted are Democrats, it doesn't matter. They are all a bunch of baby-killers anyway-- who cares about their point of view!
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If not hypocrisy, at the very least you're attempting to rewrite the history of Obama's presidency. He was an awful president, even worse that Jimmy Carter.
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Until responding to this post, Obama was not the focus of this discussion AND this discussion is still not about President Obama.
You conveniently FORGET or choose to PUBLICALLY IGNORE the two threads I authored showing applause and support for 45's actions BEFORE he proved himself to be such a nincompoop! You conveniently FORGET or choose to PUBLICALLY IGNORE the several threads I started criticized President Obama and the individual posts that number more than the threads I authored that were HIGHLY CRITICAL of President Obama.
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What do you care? What does his name have to do with the discussion?
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Because I choose to forego the luxury of attempting to anonymously attack someone's character from hundreds or thousands of miles away. Oh no, everything I SAY I either stand by, or PUBLICALLY APOLOGIZE for upon realizing I am wrong.
You know my name. You know where I am. You know my falling and rising. I am not sure if there is any poster on AFF more transparent than me and while there might be a lot for which one could criticize me, this poster and even you have implied or stated lies!
You, with your "re-writing history" quip-- as if I would not get how you were trying to use my valid criticism of another poster's statements to invalidly criticize me!
The poster who made his/her accusation against me was wrong (maybe mistake and a mistake is not the same as a lie so maybe I should not characterize his accusations as lies...). It was as if the poster never knew me because IF the poster knew me, even from just following me on AFF, if they had known just the BASICS about me, the accusation and insult would never have been said.
It's easy to take pot shots when you're anonymous.
The poster might have done better by addressing his or her concerns in a PM to me. Funny thing is I HAVE ADDRESSED CONCERNS WITH OTHER POSTERS PRIVATELY-- but other people can't fathom conducting themselves online in a way that is in the least bit respectable or honorable.
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Please what?
You know, it is best that I just walk away from this thread because I cannot see how anything good can from this.
I hold no ill will towards either of you. What's done is done and I refuse to hold grudges-- but that doesn't mean that I will not defend myself against this lunacy.
Respond however you choose. I have defended myself. You can say what you please.
My peace is more important than this thread.
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