Seconds of Pre Embryonic Life of Jesus Christ? - Page 71

Sean · #**701** 10-01-2017, 08:23 AM

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Seconds of Pre Embryonic Life of Jesus Christ?

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Next, was Mary's contribution to the "fully man" part of God, making her the mother of God?(God's flesh)

It all goes back to this topic.

Everyone either believes in a fully God, divine implantation, making Jesus NOT(falsely so-called) the son of man.

Or...

Everyone believes that God made a sperm cell in Mary to mix with her egg, making the child the begotten son of God AND the son of man.

Sean · #**702** 10-01-2017, 08:24 AM

If nobody can decide which to believe, then praise Jesus as God anyhow.

Sean · #**703** 10-01-2017, 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by mfblume

See? Falsely accuse us of not answering questions and avoiding scriptures, and yet we explain them all, and then ask you to answer and you don't.

Sean, what about Jesus' SINGLE death?

Right, and did you confess your sins to a corpse?

houston · #**704** 10-01-2017, 08:31 AM

I had to leave this thread to eat tacos al pastor....

Sean · #**705** 10-01-2017, 08:32 AM

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Right, and did you confess your sins to a corpse?

Behold, our mediator, my fellow saint....

If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

Sean · #**706** 10-01-2017, 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by houston

I had to leave this thread to eat tacos al pastor....

I give you permission since that is my favorite taco.

TK Burk · #**707** 10-01-2017, 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

That verse isn't three, or two. It is one, blessed be the GOD even FATHER of our Lord Jesus Christ. That is ONE LITERAL GOD. It is not the God and the Father, of the Lord Jesus Christ. I see how conveniently you cut out the proceeding verse. Which explains Ephesians 1:3. Ephesians 1:2 states Grace and peace to you from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ. Because you read a language you definitely don't understand, 17TH CENTURY ENGLISH you fail to understand the verse. Paul is telling you grace even peace, the grace is the peace, as the God the father is the Lord Jesus Christ. The next verse then reads blessings to the God even Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, confirming that Jesus Christ is GOD alone, due to the headship authority to the church. That's how the Apostle understood it. Why? Because the Apostle isn't seeing your God squad, Paul refers to this God Jesus in the singular Ephesians 1:4-11. Paul speaks of this singular ONE God, not a UNIFIED GOD as reconciling us THROUGH Christ. Not as a SECOND PERSON but as the proclaimed WORD of the sacrifice that was already completed through Messiah. The Diaspora Judeans would of understood this immediately, as well as the new Greek converts from Rome. From Ephesians 1:10-13 Paul discusses God counselling with His OWN WILL. Is this yet another person? Did God council with a second person which Paul refers to as God's own will? No, Christ is the vehicle in which we are all made One in Him.

God walked through the bloody sacrifices as a burning lamp when He sealed the covenant with Abraham. God was making a self-maledictory oath with Abraham. But God makes Abraham fall into a deep sleep Genesis 15:12. The same as when Adam was put to sleep for God take out Adam's wife, Eve, the mother of all living. The deep sleep which comes to Jesus on the cross, the spear is thrust into His side to take out the Church, water, and blood "Baptism in Jesus name." Here we have it happen with Abraham, but nothing is taken out of his side. Animals are cut up, to perform the self-maledictory oath. While you are now frantically googling self-maledictory oath, let me show you were it is in the Bible, Jeremiah 34:18-19. Now, God puts Abraham to sleep because GOD was going to do both parts, His part, and Abraham's part. God was the burning torch passing through the mangled sectioned bloody dead carcasses of the animals. This was GOD doing it all by Himself to show that if anyone broke the covenant He Himself would be the one to pay the price. Ephesians 1:1-13 isn't speaking of two gods bringing redemption to Israel, but the ONE GOD bringing the redemption by Himself.

Sean · #**708** 10-01-2017, 09:22 AM

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Paul is telling you grace even peace, the grace is the peace, as the God the father is the Lord Jesus Christ.

Where in the verse does it say that?....

Sean · #**709** 10-01-2017, 09:25 AM

3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ:

TK Burk · #**710** 10-01-2017, 09:27 AM

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Funny, I understand how you all think and feel. I rejected these verses for decades myself.

You didn't "reject" them. You never UNDERSTOOD them.

No one rejects what they understand in the Bible.

"Decades"? Sean, the way you use your three or four scriptures over and over to support your position, I doubt you've spent a day or two studying this out. And the way you can't even make your position clear enough for others to understand it only proves that you yourself don't understand it.

What you do REJECT, Sean is the biblical FACT that there is but "ONE" God.