Seconds of Pre Embryonic Life of Jesus Christ? - Page 66

Sean · #**651** 10-01-2017, 07:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Sean

12 Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God: and I will write upon him my new name.

I am amazed at Christians that get stumped by this verse in their Bible.

It is given a quiet "thumbs down" when they read it.

They completely disagree with their Savior's own words.

"Jesus" in red.

His God in orange.

2 beings here.

Sean · #**652** 10-01-2017, 07:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Sean

17 Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.

Another verse written decades after Jesus went to heaven that Christians deny/avoid.

"Jesus" in red.

His God in orange.

2 beings here.

Amanah · #**653** 10-01-2017, 07:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

That verse isn't three, or two. It is one, blessed be the GOD even FATHER of our Lord Jesus Christ. That is ONE LITERAL GOD. It is not the God and the Father, of the Lord Jesus Christ. I see how conveniently you cut out the proceeding verse. Which explains Ephesians 1:3. Ephesians 1:2 states Grace and peace to you from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ. Because you read a language you definitely don't understand, 17TH CENTURY ENGLISH you fail to understand the verse. Paul is telling you grace even peace, the grace is the peace, as the God the father is the Lord Jesus Christ. The next verse then reads blessings to the God even Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, confirming that Jesus Christ is GOD alone, due to the headship authority to the church. That's how the Apostle understood it. Why? Because the Apostle isn't seeing your God squad, Paul refers to this God Jesus in the singular Ephesians 1:4-11. Paul speaks of this singular ONE God, not a UNIFIED GOD as reconciling us THROUGH Christ. Not as a SECOND PERSON but as the proclaimed WORD of the sacrifice that was already completed through Messiah. The Diaspora Judeans would of understood this immediately, as well as the new Greek converts from Rome. From Ephesians 1:10-13 Paul discusses God counselling with His OWN WILL. Is this yet another person? Did God council with a second person which Paul refers to as God's own will? No, Christ is the vehicle in which we are all made One in Him.

God walked through the bloody sacrifices as a burning lamp when He sealed the covenant with Abraham. God was making a self-maledictory oath with Abraham. But God makes Abraham fall into a deep sleep Genesis 15:12. The same as when Adam was put to sleep for God take out Adam's wife, Eve, the mother of all living. The deep sleep which comes to Jesus on the cross, the spear is thrust into His side to take out the Church, water, and blood "Baptism in Jesus name." Here we have it happen with Abraham, but nothing is taken out of his side. Animals are cut up, to perform the self-maledictory oath. While you are now frantically googling self-maledictory oath, let me show you were it is in the Bible, Jeremiah 34:18-19. Now, God puts Abraham to sleep because GOD was going to do both parts, His part, and Abraham's part. God was the burning torch passing through the mangled sectioned bloody dead carcasses of the animals. This was GOD doing it all by Himself to show that if anyone broke the covenant He Himself would be the one to pay the price. Ephesians 1:1-13 isn't speaking of two gods bringing redemption to Israel, but the ONE GOD bringing the redemption by Himself.

beautiful.

Sean · #**654** 10-01-2017, 07:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Esaias

Proverbs 14:7.

Indeed.

Try believing the Bible.

Sean · #**655** 10-01-2017, 07:19 AM

Another verse that shows PETER saying Jesus has a God....

1 Peter 1:3
3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which according to his abundant mercy hath begotten us again unto a lively hope by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,

Evang.Benincasa · #**656** 10-01-2017, 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Sean

Blessed be the (1)God and Father of our....... (2)Lord Jesus Christ

2, not 1.

Sean, like Brother Burk posted, you are a one verse wonder.

Brother Blume also pointed out that you don't understand How God is literally ONE, and therefore you make it up.

Esaias summed it all up in Proverbs 14:7.

Sean, 38 years you dodged the bullet. Instead of becoming useful in the church community, you chose to believe that the ministry was only keeping you down. Away from the pulpit, away from really being able to be used to tell everyone what you really think. Thank God you didn't have the venue of the Internet 38 years ago. You would of run your road to ruin way earlier.

Sean, you are a Sunday Morning Nightmare. The guy who walks up and the pastor rolls his eyes. Other men in the church place you on the pay no mind list, because they understand that getting into a discussion with you is as fruitless as juggling chainsaws while eating an apple.

Sean, God is ONE

Hear Oh Israel the Lord our God is ONE

The Gee Hov Witnesses get around this by making Jesus a little god.

Hence the reason why they butcher up John 1:1 and say the Word was "a god."

The Muslims have Jesus as a prophet to reconcile their view of One God.

Sean, you aren't one God, you have Two totally SEPARATE gods, just like the Mormons

Your god isn't a unified one, but two totally separate beings.

Sean is Jesus married to the Church? The Bride?

How many husbands does the church have?

Sean · #**657** 10-01-2017, 07:22 AM

Romans 15:6King James Version (KJV)

6 That ye may with one mind and one mouth glorify God, even the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ.

I know, those stinkin Englishmen wrote it wrong...LOL

houston · #**658** 10-01-2017, 07:22 AM

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Originally Posted by TK Burk

Sean, the above is one of the stupidest questions I've seen you ask yet...and that's REALLY saying something.

ROFLOL! Just when you think it couldn’t get any worse.

Evang.Benincasa · #**659** 10-01-2017, 07:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Sean

Indeed.

Try believing the Bible.

That my boy, was Esaias trying to help you out.
Sadly since you believe that you are the restorer to the Apostolic movement, no one can talk to you. Where do you attend church again?

Sean · #**660** 10-01-2017, 07:23 AM

2 Corinthians 1:3
Praise be to the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of compassion and the God of all comfort.

Wow. Jesus had a God.

Paul really said it quite often.