Seconds of Pre Embryonic Life of Jesus Christ? - Page 52

Evang.Benincasa · #**511** 09-30-2017, 06:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Sean

Right, NOT the Spirit made flesh.

Sean, truther, TEACHER.

I asked you this already, what is the logos?

John 1:2

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was with God in the beginning.

Sean, why is the logos called God at the very beginning of creation?

You claim the logos isn't a spirit, so what is the logos?

John 1:12-14

But as many as received him, to them gave He power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:

Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.

And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

Sean, the logos which was God from the very beginning of the creation was made flesh, a person, not two persons. Just one person who is Jesus Christ.

But please explain what the logos really is and how it isn't a spirit to add to your spirit collection. Holy Ghost, Human Spirit, Human Spirit of Christ, and now the Logos spirit? Or the logos isn't a spirit, but the actual KJV Bible translation?

Evang.Benincasa · #**512** 09-30-2017, 06:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Sean

There you go folks, Jesus, John and Paul said JESUS HAS A GOD AFTER HE RESURRECTED, but DB says no.

Sean? Why did you tell us that you are One God?

You posted throughout the beginning of this thread that you believed in One God Acts 2:38? You then went on to say that you believed that Jesus became GOD after the resurrection. I have offered you to explain John 20:17. You then explained it by now posting that God isn't literally numerically one, and not a unified one (I hope I'm understanding you) but now a god, has a god? Which means that post resurrection Jesus who became god after His resurrection has a God? So, that is God the FATHER and God the SON.

You posted that the Holy Ghost is the Father, and fills the Human glorified Spirit of Christ, those two then fill us?

Am I right?

Is that what you believe?

Sean · #**513** 09-30-2017, 06:51 AM

Jesus had been resurrected for nearly 60 years when he said this....

12 Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God: and I will write upon him my new name.

He had a God during his life on earth, and still has a God today.

Does anyone here want to say Jesus does not have a God?

Sean · #**514** 09-30-2017, 06:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

Sean, truther, TEACHER.

I asked you this already, what is the logos?

John 1:2

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was with God in the beginning.

Sean, why is the logos called God at the very beginning of creation?

You claim the logos isn't a spirit, so what is the logos?

John 1:12-14

But as many as received him, to them gave He power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:

Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.

And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

Sean, the logos which was God from the very beginning of the creation was made flesh, a person, not two persons. Just one person who is Jesus Christ.

But please explain what the logos really is and how it isn't a spirit to add to your spirit collection. Holy Ghost, Human Spirit, Human Spirit of Christ, and now the Logos spirit? Or the logos isn't a spirit, but the actual KJV Bible translation?

The Logos is the word of the Spirit.(part of God)

The worlds were made by the same word.

Jesus was made by the same word.

The word of the Spirit was made flesh, not the Spirit itself was made flesh.

On the contrary, Jesus(flesh) was made spirit after the resurrection....

45 And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit.

Sean · #**515** 09-30-2017, 06:58 AM

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Originally Posted by mfblume

Jesus the God has a God????

Man becomes God, like the devil tempted Eve to believe, and that God has a God.

Anyone thinking of BABYLON (confusion)?

Jesus and 2 Apostles say he has a God.

Do you disagree?

The choice is yours.

Sean · #**516** 09-30-2017, 07:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Esaias

Seems you can't defend your two-god doctrine very well. So "lol" all you want, you've made it clear what you believe.

No, you are hung up on Catholics.

You always go blank and compare folks to some group instead of working specifics.

If I show you a verse that Jesus says 4 times in it that he has a God, then you cry Catholic.

Deep down, you are calling Jesus a Catholic for saying this....

12 Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God: and I will write upon him my new name.

Sean · #**517** 09-30-2017, 07:04 AM

I only quote Jesus and agree with him, then get pummeled for agreeing.

John "freaks out" H/U doctrine.

Sean · #**518** 09-30-2017, 07:07 AM

12 Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God: and I will write upon him my new name.

This was written about 60 years since Jesus was already in heaven.

Does anyone on AFF agree with the emboldened parts?

Sean · #**519** 09-30-2017, 07:09 AM

Can anyone make Hypostatic Union(dual nature) out of it?

I dont have a way, please help me.

Thanks.

Sean · #**520** 09-30-2017, 07:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Sean

The Logos is the word of the Spirit.(part of God)

The worlds were made by the same word.

Jesus was made by the same word.

The word of the Spirit was made flesh, not the Spirit itself was made flesh.

On the contrary, Jesus(flesh) was made spirit after the resurrection....

45 And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit.

More...

3 All things were made by him(His Word) and without him was not any thing made that was made...

14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

Jesus was made from scratch by the Word like all other things were.