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Old 09-29-2017, 01:58 PM
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Re: Seconds of Pre Embryonic Life of Jesus Christ?

Sorry about the "Spirit molecule" description. We have no idea what the Spirit is made of, so I used human terms to attempt to describe the substance of God.

Whatever.
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Old 09-29-2017, 02:01 PM
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Re: Seconds of Pre Embryonic Life of Jesus Christ?

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Thomas called Jesus His God?

And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God.
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Old 09-29-2017, 02:03 PM
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So, when did this "indwelling" take place?
And how is it different than when we receive the Holy Ghost?
Repost.
I think you missed this one in the back and forth.
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Old 09-29-2017, 02:10 PM
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Re: Seconds of Pre Embryonic Life of Jesus Christ?

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But He did tell the Pharisees, "Before Abraham was, I am."

He was claiming omnipresence not only in space but in time as well...hence the claim to currently exist in the time before Abraham.
Yes he did, and that was the Father inside him speaking to them.



10 Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works....

24 He that loveth me not keepeth not my sayings: and the word which ye hear is not mine, but the Father's which sent me.
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Old 09-29-2017, 02:13 PM
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Re: Seconds of Pre Embryonic Life of Jesus Christ?

"The word which ye hear is not mine, but DB which sent me".


2 right?

How many times a day do we inadvertently read John as one person?
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Old 09-29-2017, 02:23 PM
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Re: Seconds of Pre Embryonic Life of Jesus Christ?

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Jesus describes God....


24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.



How can you not see it, TK?
John says (not describes--says) God is His Word (John 1:1). Then John says...

14 And the Word was made flesh...

How can you not see it, Sean?
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Old 09-29-2017, 02:27 PM
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This is about capacity? Ok.

John 3:34 (KJV)
For he whom God hath sent speaketh the words of God: for God giveth not the Spirit by measure unto him.
Yes, he was given the Holy Ghost immeasurably.(All he needed to do the amazing miracles, speak for his God and not sin).

That is not Col 2:9 at all.

Col 2:9 says every "ounce" of God is inside his body.


9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.
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Old 09-29-2017, 02:31 PM
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http://www.apostolicfriendsforum.com...&postcount=403

After the resurrection.
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And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God.
So Jesus was called God by Thomas. But Jesus told Mary He needed to ascend to the Father. Therefore the Father was in a different location? Because the post resurrection God Jesus had to go up to the Father God? Would you agree that you believe in God the Father in God the Son in dwelling in us through God the Holy Ghost? That sounds like something that those guys in black robes believe?
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Old 09-29-2017, 03:48 PM
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No God the Son.

He is an individual, fully indwelled man, not a fully indwelled God.
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