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[Aquila]

Let me explain how the Law is written upon our hearts...

Matthew 22:36-40 King James Version (KJV)
36 Master, which is the great commandment in the law?
37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.
38 This is the first and great commandment.
39 And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
40 On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.

Romans 13:8-10King James Version (KJV)
8 Owe no man any thing, but to love one another: for he that loveth another hath fulfilled the law.
9 For this, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, Thou shalt not covet; and if there be any other commandment, it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
10 Love worketh no ill to his neighbour: therefore love is the fulfilling of the law.

Galatians 5:14 King James Version (KJV)
14 For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

James 2:8 King James Version (KJV)
If ye fulfil the royal law according to the scripture, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself, ye do well:

Holiness is essential to salvation. (Hebrews 12:14) Man is made holy by the presence and power of the Holy Spirit in his inner man. Holy, consecrated, prayerful living should characterize the life and walk of every born-again saint of God. Therefore, God requires that one must forsake the ways of the wicked (2 Corinthians 6:17) and cleanse oneself from filthiness of the flesh and spirit, perfecting holiness in the fear of God. (2 Corinthians 7:1) Holiness is not predicated upon adhering to the Law of Moses or church standards (Galatians 3:10-13; Romans 7:7-9; Colossians 2:16-17; Galatians 3:24-25; Galatians 2:16; Galatians 3:1-3). A life of true holiness is marked by living a life of divine love towards God and others (Matthew 22:37-40; Romans 13:8-10; Galatians 5:14; James 2:8).

If we truly love God with all our heart, mind, soul, and strength, we will demonstrate that love by loving others as ourselves. And in this we fulfill the spirit and intent of the entire Law in one single Spirit led movement and focus. This is what it means to have His Law written upon our hearts.

This is the the Royal Law, the Law of Love, the very Law of Christ. It is to flow from us, and fill our very being. For God is Love. And if God is Love, then it is when we are the most loving that we are the most like Him. And in this, we are truly holy as He is Holy.

The Law was given to Israel, and so even if obeyed perfectly, it can only conform you into the image of ancient Israe at the very most, not the image and likeness of the glorified Christ.

And so, adherence to the letter of the Law is a cheap substitute, a basement level of righteousness, that cannot ever attain to the true perfection found only in Christ Jesus our Lord. For love not only fulfills the spirit and intent of the entire Law, it calls us infinitely beyond it, infinitely higher, into the manifest reality of our partaking in the divine nature itself.

This is the very power, freedom, and reality found only in... Grace.

In summary, true holiness can only be attained by...

1.) Loving God with all your being.
2.) Demonstrating that love by loving loving others as yourself, yea, even as He has loved you.

This is what it means to have His Law written upon one's heart. The rest is commentary.

Give God all praise and Glory!

[n david]

Originally Posted by jediwill83

I know is Jamaica, women are encouraged to wear pants because of the number of rapes and sexual assaults.

It was a pretty credible source...someone actually from there I spoke to about it.

Originally Posted by n david

I doubt cons are concerned about this. Doesn't matter. Women better wear a dress/skirt or they'll be condemned and cast into hell.

I should not have said: "I doubt cons are concerned about this." It's wrong of me to insinuate cons are callous and unconcerned about rape and sexual assault. I certainly don't believe cons are unconcerned or callous about that, so I apologize for that part of my post. It was wrong and I shouldn't have posted that.

The rest is true. There are no exclusion. There are no exceptions. Cons believe any woman wearing pants will burn in hell. Period. It doesn't matter why a woman chooses to wear pants, be it culture, personal preference, or simple dislike of cold weather and the wind blowing up around her nether regions. That doesn't matter. No exclusions. No exceptions.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Jason B

Lol, this is like Alex Jones level conspiracy connect the dots.

I give a clear post answering your questions and you somehow arrive at the conclusion that I believe and am really saying the UPC is Satanic???????

Here's your full quote again. Looks pretty clear to me.

Originally Posted by Jason B

THEY (upci/apistolics) are NOT content with faith in the person and work of the living Christ, BUT in a system/method that THEY so adhere to THEY CAN'T distinguish between Christ and THEIR system. Y'all misunderstand any opposition to YOUR system/method to be OPPOSITION to Christ himself.

You explained that the UPCI and Apostolic Pentecostals put themselves in the position of Jesus Christ? Because anyone who is in opposition to their system or method (they believe) are opposed to Christ Himself.

Did I get that right so far?

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Jason B

Nah. Y'all really can not understand why people leave, it always gets reduced to 1)bitterness or 2)bad experience. It never truly dawns on y'all that maybe just maybe someone actually likes being pentecostal, enjoys the worship, the fellowship, the familiarity, but just simply leaves because they believe the Bible teaches something else. It always goes back to bitterness or bad experience. You are the second person to tell me that this week. The other, none other than DKB himself on a facebook thread about worship styles.

Let me make it plain. I don't dislike the UPC or UPCers. I am disappointed the UPC/greater oneness movement is not what I thought it was. I thought and believed for years it was the restoration of the apostles doctrine and practice, the true church on the earth, the channel God would use to bring endtime revival and the restoration of true Christianity. I believed all those things, I was not unhappy. I was not hurt. I was not mistreated, and I whole heartedly believed the doctrine.

There was no fishing for answers, no looking for a way out. It just happened over time as I studied God's Word that He lead me out.

It has little to nothing to do with protestant heros. You know the only protestants I had read before leaving the OP movement was William Barclays commentaries, who is a very liberal presbyterian, that I dont agree with on much dogma, but he is good for historical information. I read a book on The Sermon on the Mount by DA Carson, and I read several commentaries by Warren Weirsbe. Not a ton of "heroes" there, and not a lot of influence either. None of those guys are particularly focused on doctrine or say a ton that would be seen as an assault on pentecostalism. It wasn't the heros who moved me, it was the scripture. Particularly the NT, especially Romans, the Gospels, especially John, Galatians, Colossians, Ephesians, and 1 John.

I dont think I read a MacArthur book until 2010, either right before or after I left. It was called "Faith Works: The Gospel according to the apostles". It was a polemic against easy believism, not a theological treatise on salvation.

I've since read a few more books from MacArthur, who is one one my favorite authors, but only about 6 or 8 in total, and only his commentary on Romans.

Beside that, I've got a book of Jonathan Edwards sermons, only read about 60 pages of it. I've read parts of a few Charles Spurgeon sermond, but not much. (Those guys sermons go forever, it hard reading).

I've never read anything from John Calvin or Martin Luther except half of Luthers small catecism. I've got 2 books by John Owen, I've started one ( The mortification of sin) but never finished it, and havent even opened the other (the death of death in the death of Christ). I've never read a systematic theology, but did read most if ""bible doctrine" by wayne grudem, which is a summary of his systematic theology. Thats pretty much it, and all that is after leaving the oneness movement, not before.

I mostly read the scripture and commentaries, or books on church history.

My "re-examining" has been rooted in scripture. As usual, you are projecting things you really don't know anything about.

I totally understand why people leave. You had your run ins while you were in the Apostolic movement. You even posted your war story here. Let me make it plain for you. You read commentaries, and you read other books by other Christian groups. You were shopping for answers. Or you were in the Apostolic church for years? 10, 20, 30, 40? What's the number old salt? My question is this, which is the questions I ask all the other seekers? What on earth were you doing for all those long years in Pennycost. John MacArthur? Sweet Jesus!

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by n david

Oh stop your fake outrage. Own the fact that there aren't any exceptions or exclusions to your "women who wear pants will burn in hell" belief.

Pants are male attire.

There.


You feel better now.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by n david

petash: (a garment) perhaps leggings
Original Word: פַּטִּישֵׁי
Part of Speech: Noun Masculine
Transliteration: petash
Phonetic Spelling: (pat-teesh')
Short Definition: coats

noun [masculine] a garment, meaning dubious, tunic (Thes) or leggings

Word Origin
(Aramaic) of uncertain derivation
Definition
(a garment) perhaps leggings
NASB Translation
coats (1).

Ndavid, why did you post these two definitions?

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by jediwill83

I know is Jamaica, women are encouraged to wear pants because of the number of rapes and sexual assaults.

It was a pretty credible source...someone actually from there I spoke to about it.

How many Jamaicans are around you? Also do you know any Apostolic Pentecostals who are Jamaicans? Down here we have quite a few.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Aquila

1.) Loving God with all your being.
2.)

Demonstrating that love by loving loving others as yourself, yea, even as He has loved you.

This is what it means to have His Law written upon one's heart. The rest is commentary.

Give God all praise and Glory!

Is this what you would like to do?

Or do you believe this is what you do?

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by LOVE JESUS

Wow!! Almost 16,000 views and 1,080 posts. Hot topic!!! As one lady used to say, Good grief!!!

Easias, you were once again, a 100% correct.

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

Is this what you would like to do?

Or do you believe this is what you do?

It's what I would like to do consistently, but I'm really bad at it sometimes.