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[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by jediwill83

I agree with Aquila on this issue. If you're making a logical argument about smoking and say that it is harmful to the body therefore it is sinful, then you must examine all other things that harm the body and cause health issues and use that same argument to label those a sin as well.

Yes.... food can be a HUGE addiction.

I've struggled with food addiction for years.

Don't preach against smoking and make food your god.

I can teach my children to not smoke, to not eat garbage, to not become obese. Not because of some religious prohibition but because their father and mother are super healthy, and can deadlift some crazy weight.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

Do you think an average woman can wear Bruce Jenner's high heels?

Pants were worn by priests, military cavalry, and by Hebrew men under their cloaks. Jordache jeans wouldn't of made it in the United States in 1800s. Do you agree?

[Sister Alvear]

The Jamieson, Fausset and Brown Commentary explains:

“Disguises were assumed at certain times in pagan temples. Maimonides…mentions that a man attired in a coloured female dress, in honour of Venus, Ashtaroth, or Astarte, and a woman equipped in armour, worshipped at the shrine of the statue of Mars…

“Asiatics, when they engaged in the worship of Ashtaroth, were accustomed, according to Philocorus, quoted by Townley (in his edition of Maimonides, note 33), to exchange the male and female dresses. In fact, all idolators confounded the sexes of their deities—representing them sometimes as male, at other times as female; and hence, their worshippers, male and female, fell gradually into the custom, which became extensively prevalent, of changing their attire in adaptation to the sex of a particular divinity.”

Well...what do you think?

[Amanah]

Originally Posted by Sister Alvear

The Jamieson, Fausset and Brown Commentary explains:

“Disguises were assumed at certain times in pagan temples. Maimonides…mentions that a man attired in a coloured female dress, in honour of Venus, Ashtaroth, or Astarte, and a woman equipped in armour, worshipped at the shrine of the statue of Mars…

“Asiatics, when they engaged in the worship of Ashtaroth, were accustomed, according to Philocorus, quoted by Townley (in his edition of Maimonides, note 33), to exchange the male and female dresses. In fact, all idolators confounded the sexes of their deities—representing them sometimes as male, at other times as female; and hence, their worshippers, male and female, fell gradually into the custom, which became extensively prevalent, of changing their attire in adaptation to the sex of a particular divinity.”

Well...what do you think?

Sister Alvear, that is certainly an example of gender confusion. If I may ask a question, does your church teach gender distinction, and that women should wear dresses as an expression of gender distinction?

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by Pliny

It is good to know that someone's grandfather smoked a pipe; therefore, it is okay to smoke, chew tobacco or other controlled substances because someone somewhere did so in history. Sin must be something that no one has ever done...

Where did I say any of that?

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by jediwill83

I agree with Aquila on this issue. If you're making a logical argument about smoking and say that it is harmful to the body therefore it is sinful, then you must examine all other things that harm the body and cause health issues and use that same argument to label those a sin as well.

Yes.... food can be a HUGE addiction.

I've struggled with food addiction for years.

Don't preach against smoking and make food your god.

The leading cause of premature death in America is diet related heart disease.

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

I can teach my children to not smoke, to not eat garbage, to not become obese. Not because of some religious prohibition but because their father and mother are super healthy, and can deadlift some crazy weight.

I agree. We should admonish healthy living simply because it makes sense.

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

Do you think an average woman can wear Bruce Jenner's high heels?

Pants were worn by priests, military cavalry, and by Hebrew men under their cloaks. Jordache jeans wouldn't of made it in the United States in 1800s. Do you agree?

I'm curious, do you have any Scripture that affirms that Hebrew men wore pants under their cloaks?

[Sister Alvear]

Originally Posted by Amanah

Sister Alvear, that is certainly an example of gender confusion. If I may ask a question, does your church teach gender distinction, and that women should wear dresses as an expression of gender distinction?

Yes our ladies do wear dresses. However I do not teach Deut 22 means men should wear pants and ladies dresses for neither existed as we know them today. Yes I know there were short britches under the robes of certain men however as a general rule most wore robes in those day or at least that is my opinion.

I used to think Deut 22 meant for women not to wear long pants but after much study I do not think that is what Deut. teaches. HOWEVER there is enough Bible teaching all how to dress without misusing Deut. 22. Some time ago I did a study about some other things in Deut 22 that one of our preachers asked me about and it seems to me that God did not want them mixing with the pagan beliefs around them. Canaanite fertility worshipers.". That is why they were commanded not to plant 2 different kinds of seed together...

These and other prohibitions were designed to forbid the Israelites to engage in fertility cult practices of the Canaanites. The Canaanites believed in sympathetic magic, the idea that symbolic actions can influence the gods and nature…. Mixing animal breeds, seeds, or materials was thought to “marry” them” so as magically to produce “offspring,” that is, agricultural bounty in the future.(Think Christianity)



I have not said much since it was said in so many words I was not helping those who preach standards...not the exact words but I took it to mean that.



Personally after years of study I do not have to take a scripture out of its setting to preach or teach. Everyone that knows me KNOWS how dress and a picture says what our mouths often do not say....just take a look at my ladies and how I live and teach is revealed in them....

[Sister Alvear]

I want to always look and dress like a mother in Israel...