Christian lead separatist movement

[Originalist]

Originally Posted by Aquila

Yes, we still have millions of uninsured. We have a ways to go. And yes, the ACA has helped those who couldn't afford it before be able to afford it. However, the costs have risen for others. Keep in mind, the Republicans have been trying to sabotage it in many ways.

The Massive Republican Campaign to Sabotage the Affordable Care Act
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/bob-ce...b_4311424.html

FACT SHEET: Republican Efforts to Sabotage the Affordable Care Act
http://www.dpc.senate.gov/docs/fs-113-1-231.pdf

 A Blueprint for the GOP’s Attempt to Sabotage Obamacare
https://www.thenation.com/article/bl...age-obamacare/

I find it sad that Republicans have become such obstructionists, nearly causing inflated prices for those who desperately need health insurance, just so that they can turn around and blame the President. And even sadder still, many believe them.

So you blame the GOP for the failure of Obamacare?

Yes, I am glad the GOP is obstructing attacks on the Constitution.

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by aegsm76

Aquila - Obamacare was passed so that it would force a single-payer system at a future date.
It was set up to fail.
The same restrictions on competitiion that existed before it were left in place.
I was directly involved in much of the changes that it made in the healthcare field.

I think you're giving Obamacare too much credit.

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by Originalist

So you blame the GOP for the failure of Obamacare?

I blame the GOP for launching the effort to block Medicare expansions in over 26 states. I also blame the GOP for launching the effort to undermine ACA Market Enrollments. These two moves alone have used market forces to purposefully raise the cost of premiums in those states. Sadly, people are hurting and blaming Obama, not realizing the knife in their backs has the GOP's fingerprints all over it.

Yes, I am glad the GOP is obstructing attacks on the Constitution.

Do you believe that those of us who are insured should pay ever rising premiums to cover the cost of the uninsured who go to ERs and don't pay their medical bills? You do know that the vast majority of those who are uninsured and go to the ER never pay their medical bills right? Guess who that loss is handed down to? Us.

Do you believe that every able bodied person should pay for their healthcare? Yes or no?

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by Aquila

I blame the GOP for launching the effort to block Medicare expansions in over 26 states. I also blame the GOP for launching the effort to undermine ACA Market Enrollments. These two moves alone have used market forces to purposefully raise the cost of premiums in those states. Sadly, people are hurting and blaming Obama, not realizing the knife in their backs has the GOP's fingerprints all over it.



Do you believe that those of us who are insured should pay ever rising premiums to cover the cost of the uninsured who go to ERs and don't pay their medical bills? You do know that the vast majority of those who are uninsured and go to the ER never pay their medical bills right? Guess who that loss is handed down to? Us.

Do you believe that every able bodied person should pay for their healthcare? Yes or no?

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by Esaias

LOL!

I like the cartoon!

But the fact of the matter is.... the cost of redundant administrative processes and the costs that come into play on behalf of the uninsured who don't pay their bills.... comes down on us in higher premiums.

The only way to stabilize the system is to have EVERYONE pay into the system or to deny care entirely to people without insurance or the cash to pay.