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Old 06-04-2007, 12:28 PM
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Elder Blume are you going to teach your artificial veil teaching at your church in California?
His conscience will cause him to do so. Obedience will be rewarded.
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Old 06-04-2007, 12:29 PM
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I received a phone call yesterday from a friend who was disturbed by a testimony in her church from a woman who said she was thinking of cutting her hair and donating it because she was scheduled for chemo and would lose it anyway, but decided to pray about it and was shown angels holding their breath. When she decided not to cut it, the angels let out a sigh of relief.
Angels are not only dependant on the hair, they also breathe now... wow!

The things you learn in church!
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Anyone notice the importance of symbols in the NT?

Baptism ..........burial
Unleaven Bread...........broken body
Fruit of the Vine.........shed blood
Oil................annointing
Feet washing..........servanthood

Then in Corinthians:
Christ our Passover 5:7
unleavened bread 5:8
Temple of the Lord 6:19
Vineyard, plowing, altar, ox, flock, temple, 9
mastery, crown, run, prize, 9
baptized cloud and sea 10:1
spiritual meat, 3
spiritual rock , 4
table of the Lord & devils, 21
the cup & bread, 21
cup & bread 11:26

the the word power 'the symbol of authority.' in respect to the angels whatever it means.
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You never answered my questions Bubba.

1. What does "for this cause" mean?
2. What does "because of the angels" mean?

Please post your substantive opinion.
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That's why ... if theologians can't agree ... I think it's simply fishing to have one's paradigm to fit the Word ....

There isn't enough here to formulate an Angelic Hair or Uncut Hair doctrine ... me thinks that those that seek to interpret "because of the angels" do so to advance their erroneous agenda
Never answered, Daniel Alicea.

Chicken? Or just don't know the Word well enough?
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Old 06-04-2007, 12:31 PM
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I said "generally."

If she has once believed it and no longer does, that would be deception, which often has its roots in rebellion or offense.
In my case, the deception came from the person teaching such doctrine.

I used to believe it, but when I decided to read the Bible for myself instead of allowing a pastor (who usually preached with the disclaimer 'don't worry about where it is in the Bible, I said it's in there, and you believe me because I'm the pastor') to teach me according to what he interpreted.

My eyes became open to a lot of things that I'd been taught were Biblical but found no such teaching in the Bible.

I do not live in rebellion, but in accordance with the Bible and my personal beliefs that aren't necessarily Biblical, but don't go against it.
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Old 06-04-2007, 12:32 PM
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Never answered, Daniel Alicea.

Chicken? Or just don't know the Word well enough?
I know the Word PP ... yet it's apparent ... that there is no agreement on this passage ... I can post 4 of the prevalent interpretations on the meaning of because of the angels ... but knowing your view on this matter ... I know ... that you seek to advance one interpretation ...

it's fruitless ... it's like talking to the Mormons
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Old 06-04-2007, 12:33 PM
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If the woman has once belived it and then cuts her hair, it is one of two things: rebellion or deception.

Rebellion if she still believes but cuts it anyway, and deception if she has convinced herself or allowed others to convince her it is no longer truth.
If you were taught that eating chicken on Tuesdays was a sin, and you found out in your later years that there is no such teaching in the Bible, are you being rebellious or deceptive if you start eating chicken on Tuesdays?
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I know the Word PP ... yet it's apparent ... that there is no agreement on this passage ... I can post 4 of the prevalent interpretations on the meaning of because of the angels ... but knowing your view on this matter ... I know ... that you seek to advance one interpretation ...

it's fruitless ... it's like talking to the Mormons
I don't want to hear from commentaries. I want your opinion. Why are you so afraid to give it? Do you not have one?

Why does this need to be about legalism vs liberalism? All I asked was what you think "fior this cause" and "because of the angels" meant. Sheesh! It doesn't get any tamer than that.
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Spiritual consequences based on an outward sign is not some new thing.

When the angel of death passed through the land of Egypt, the houses covered by blood on the doorposts were spared.

The mark of obedience was the visible protection that identified their obedience.
The difference in God's people of the OT and the NT is that God required outward signs in the OT. He didn't in the NT, otherwise men would have to be circumcised when they are saved (if they weren't already).

Paul preached that it didn't apply to us anymore.
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That's why ... if theologians can't agree ... I think it's simply fishing to have one's paradigm to fit the Word ....

There isn't enough here to formulate an Angelic Hair or Uncut Hair doctrine ... me thinks that those that seek to interpret "because of the angels" do so to advance their erroneous agenda
Why would the symbol be minimized because we may not comprehend the total import of the statement? It must mean something important if the angels are included in this text so if I don't understand it that does nothing to it's importance. Evidently Heaven is concerned if the angels are injoined on this subject. Notice the incarnation has the angels in it's text "seen of the angels." Angels are ministering spirits concerned with our welfare unless this is in reference to evil angels who rejected God's authority or the angels that guard the throne of God lest the glory of man would be seen in His majestic presence.
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