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Old 04-25-2015, 12:23 AM
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Re: Lee Stoneking Addresses UN

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It is depressing to me that this man is the "first Apostolic to address the United Nations". When I have time I will watch it. I pray that he did not say any of the crazy stuff he does during sermons. Hopefully just a straightforward testimony with the typical UPC Acts 2:38 exhortation.
I don't think he was the first apostolic to address the UN. I believe a Paul Murray and also a Vani Marshall both did before LS. I'm not sure how many years ago. I will find the link for you.

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Old 04-25-2015, 12:26 AM
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Paul Murray an ALJC minister.
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Old 04-25-2015, 01:28 AM
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Paul Murray an ALJC minister.
Lee Stoneking was the first apostolic to speak at a General Assembly, Art Wilson as been speaking monthly at the UN for almost 2 years teaching bible studies --- there are pictures of this every where.. But speaking at a General Assembly has never been done by an apostolic..

Bro. Wilson was the one selected to make this speech, but gave Lee Stoneking his seat..
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Old 04-25-2015, 02:25 AM
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Re: Lee Stoneking Addresses UN

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This is what the meeting was about.
http://www.un.org/pga/hltd-promoting...econciliation/
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Objective
The main objective of the high-level thematic debate is to provide an opportunity for Member States and faith leaders, along with other stakeholders to share experiences and to address key issues and challenges relating to the promotion of tolerance and reconciliation with the aim of fostering peaceful and inclusive societies and countering violent extremism. These include:

What practical strategies can be devised to counter the threat of radicalization through people-centered and inclusive measures and avoid exclusionary approaches at local, national, regional and international levels?
What measures can be pursued to promote the importance of religious, cultural, gender and social diversity in positively fostering peaceful and inclusive societies?
What roles can specific actors and sectors of societies, such as women and youth, education and the media, play in promoting inclusive approaches to tolerance and reconciliation and countering violent extremism?
How can the Member States, United Nations and other stakeholders effectively support means to promote tolerance and reconciliation, including through actions aimed at conflict prevention and early detection of human rights violations?
What measures can be taken to stop extremists from recruiting individuals or groups to carry out terrorist acts?
How can religious and community leaders engage at the local level to reach people who might be vulnerable to radicalization?
How can specific actors, including faith leaders, take the lead in unmasking and rejecting the misuse of religion as a justification for violent extremism?
How can religious leaders promote tolerance for diversity, freedom of expression and human rights?
How can religious leaders promote the sustainable development goals in local communities in order to address the conditions conducive to the spread of violent extremism?

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The second day will include high-level interventions from faith leaders followed by two interactive panel discussions, focusing on:
reaching people at the community level; and
highlighting a counter-narrative that emphasizes tolerance for diversity, freedom of expression and human rights.

(end quotes)

So the UN wanted to discuss ways to promote "tolerance" and "inclusivism" especially in regards to religion. ie "How do we bring all the religions together into one big happy family? How do we use all religions to push the message that we're all equally valid and we should all coexist and NOT be exclusive?"

In other words, "one world religion". LS did not put forward a message along those lines. Instead he testified to two things: Jesus Christ heals, and Jesus Christ is the only solution to war and violence (ie there will be no peace until all submit to the Gospel).

What message should he have given instead? An ecumenical, " we are all on different paths to the same goal", "all religious beliefs are created equal", peace love and dope?

I think he did a good job with the short time he had available.
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Old 04-25-2015, 04:53 AM
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Re: Lee Stoneking Addresses UN

Who is Paul Murray and what does ALJC stand for ? When did Murray speak ? Who is Vani Marshall ?

I am curious !!

Looks like Paul Murray has been an invited speaker at the UN.

Was Gaddi Vasquez the first Apostolic to speak at the UN ?

Looks like Lee Stoneking is not the first Apostolic to speak at the UN.

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what does ALJC stand for ?
Oneness group called the Assemblies of the Lord Jesus Christ.
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Re: Lee Stoneking Addresses UN

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Who is Paul Murray and what does ALJC stand for ? When did Murray speak ? Who is Vani Marshall ?

I am curious !!

Looks like Paul Murray has been an invited speaker at the UN.

Was Gaddi Vasquez the first Apostolic to speak at the UN ?

Looks like Lee Stoneking is not the first Apostolic to speak at the UN.

I just told you -- Lee Stoneking is the First/And Only Apostolic to speak at the General Assembly!!!!!!
Many have spoken at the UN (Art Wilson speaks there at least 2 times a month in his bible study) Vani Marshall was another guest Art Wilson invited to speak, but that was to his bible study.. The General Assembly was a platform to the world..

Its like you guys aren't listening?????
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Old 04-25-2015, 07:21 AM
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I dont see why you have to turn a conversation into a personal attack

Its just a conversation. What is wrong with you people?
I didn't see any personal attack in his post. I think you might just be taking it the wrong way. No offense meant, just my interpretation.

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I remember a prayer thread here about him sometime ago, as he was having serious surgery for cardiac issues, and so perhaps I misunderstood, but in any event - if he was completely healed, and delivered of the cardiac disease gene... why did he have this event just a few months ago? Just a question... ?
I thought he said it happened in 2003. I'll have to listen to the video again, to be sure.

*EDIT*
Yeah, first thing he said (after the greetings), was that it happened on November 12th, 2003.

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I don't think he was the first apostolic to address the UN. I believe a Paul Murray and also a Vani Marshall both did before LS. I'm not sure how many years ago. I will find the link for you.
Both may have spoke at the UN building, but neither spoke in front of the General Assembly. There are various forums and hearings which the UN conducts in its many different meeting rooms at the UN.

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Who is Paul Murray and what does ALJC stand for ? When did Murray speak ? Who is Vani Marshall ?

I am curious !!

Looks like Paul Murray has been an invited speaker at the UN.

Was Gaddi Vasquez the first Apostolic to speak at the UN ?

Looks like Lee Stoneking is not the first Apostolic to speak at the UN.
Don't know Gaddi Vasquez. As Thinker stated, Lee Stoneking is the first Apostolic to speak in front of the UN General Assembly.
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I don't care what problems Stoneking had and what he erred in in the past. This speech was great and nothing was wrong with it. I disagree with the man so severely on many issues, but what he said in the video was wonderful.
Wonderful??? Wow, it made sense to oneness Pentecostals and that is it, the rest of the world had no idea what he was talking about. He has no message to the world, it was all about him.
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