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Old 02-11-2015, 02:32 PM
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Re: obama compares Catholics to ISIS

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well, or at least that is the Christian polit-speak; so i'm kind of surprised to hear you repeating it. Aren't the Crusades considered a failure by most/all? So that sinks to a justification, it seems to me. I note that Palestine was not "liberated" in this period. Still isn't, for that matter--now we have Israeli apartheid.
You are correct. The Crusades were not entirely successful. However, they did manage to push Islamic power back into the Middle East and North Africa.

Consider the information on the attached image...

The Crusades ended... Jihad continues until this very day.
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Old 02-11-2015, 02:44 PM
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yes, all true, i guess. i'm not interested in throwing rocks at Crusaders, lol--nor am i convinced that the crusades ever ended, spiritually. "Jihad" is a term i only ever hear in the West, why is that? Most or all of the (admittedly moderate; as in "will never make Fox News") Muslims i know understand Jihad as being a spiritual war, not a violent one. Again, i perceive that we are all victims of our info sources.
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Shafi'i would most closely reflect my teaching. This requires application of Quran, Hadith, and carefully derived consensus on matters under question or discussion in that order of priority and no practice in a lower priority would overrule the higher.

Under this philosophy 1000 lash sentences or death sentences for adultery and a few other newsworthy issues are not practiced.

You would most commonly find this practiced in Asia (where all the Muslims really live lol) rather than in the mideast where all the news stories about Muslims originate.
Pure Quranosts still depend on commentary to work out details not specifically addressed in the Quran. Depending on the source of the commentary it really is not all that different than deferring to the Quran first followed by other sources.
Do you find any difficulty in that matter from living in Saudi Arabia?
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Do you find any difficulty in that matter from living in Saudi Arabia?
No, deferring to the Quran, Hadith, and then searching consensus on any specific issue would be an acceptable practice.
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