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11-07-2014, 09:23 PM
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Re: UPC Minister engaged to former Porn Star
Praise God that the woman from Oswego, NY is a "whore no more!" She's been washed by the blood and regenerated by the Holy Spirit. Amen.
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11-07-2014, 09:30 PM
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Re: UPC Minister engaged to former Porn Star
David Bassette isn't the first minister to marry someone with a sordid past.
Rev. Gene Scott, a former AoG minister, married Melissa Scott (a former adult entertainer). When he passed away, she carried on his ministry and still preaches in Glendale, CA.
http://www.pastormelissascott.com/index.shtml
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11-07-2014, 09:47 PM
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Re: UPC Minister engaged to former Porn Star
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The problem is not the past it is the present. Any minister marrying a brand new convert is not very wise. God surely can and will forgive her past. We all become new creatures with no past. Wisdom would tell any minister to wait and see some tract record.
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I agree with the idea of marrying a new convert being problematic because of the maturity issue, but I think her "past" should be left alone entirely unless she revisits it. Even though it's public, I still don't think it should be dinnertime conversation for those of who are, essentially, now her fellow Christians.
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Because she has not been a convert long. That seems to be the concern..and they were not dating long and he is very young
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Yes, and IMO that should be the only thing up for discussion. Hence my unofficial "title change."
As for the young man...this could be a case of what Dr. Laura Schlessinger calls "Damsel-In-Distress" syndrome. It's easy to assume that he's interested because of the industry she was involved in, but it's more likely that the pastor's son is trying to "save" her.
Regardless, I think this is their business, and I don't think it really belongs here. This is really, REALLY personal business. IMO.
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"To see no being, not God’s or any, but you also go thither,
To see no possession but you may possess it—enjoying all without labor or purchase—
abstracting the feast, yet not abstracting one particle of it;…."
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11-07-2014, 09:51 PM
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Re: UPC Minister engaged to former Porn Star
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What an absolutely ridiculous thread.  If she has turned her life around, why are we even discussing this? She isn't anything other than a Christian, whose sins are covered by the blood of Christ, the same as the rest of us. This title should read: "UPC Minister's Son Engaged To a New Convert In New York." 
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I see, well it does seem quite unorthodox to become a pastor's wife from a porn star.
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To many pompous buttholes in this thread.
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Although I understand the sentiment, I would've put it a different way. (say in love)
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It is not without validity that most of our impressions or beliefs about our family, close friends, and acquaintances automatically involve knowledge about their character as a part of their reputation. Obviously, our interactions give us insight to these people's characters and reputations, whether our perceptions are true or false. Those who know us best will see any growth of character or lack of it. Even so, some can have blind spots in relation to a particular person (for instance, a mother may ignore her son's flaws), or the person may have a talent for concealing their shortcomings, even from those closest to them.
We see a positive side of this in Acts 6:1-3, where the apostles tell the church to choose seven men to become deacons. One of the criteria was that these men were to be "of good reputation," which translates from the Greek word martureo, meaning "to be a witness, that is, to testify (literally or figuratively)." The KJV also renders martureo as "give [evidence]," "bear record," "obtain a good honest report," "be well reported of."
These men were to show evidence of God's Spirit and wisdom in their lives, a combination of a good name as well as growth in character. It is interesting that, because they knew them best, the people were to select these men according to their character.
So, How is the Adult Movie Woman be any different than those who are elected as Deacons in the church, especially if she is to become the first lady of the church.
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11-07-2014, 09:54 PM
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Re: UPC Minister engaged to former Porn Star
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It is not without validity that most of our impressions or beliefs about our family, close friends, and acquaintances automatically involve knowledge about their character as a part of their reputation. Obviously, our interactions give us insight to these people's characters and reputations, whether our perceptions are true or false. Those who know us best will see any growth of character or lack of it. Even so, some can have blind spots in relation to a particular person (for instance, a mother may ignore her son's flaws), or the person may have a talent for concealing their shortcomings, even from those closest to them.
We see a positive side of this in Acts 6:1-3, where the apostles tell the church to choose seven men to become deacons. One of the criteria was that these men were to be "of good reputation," which translates from the Greek word martureo, meaning "to be a witness, that is, to testify (literally or figuratively)." The KJV also renders martureo as "give [evidence]," "bear record," "obtain a good honest report," "be well reported of."
These men were to show evidence of God's Spirit and wisdom in their lives, a combination of a good name as well as growth in character. It is interesting that, because they knew them best, the people were to select these men according to their character.
So, How is the Adult Movie Woman be any different than those who are elected as Deacons in the church, especially if she is to become the first lady of the church. 
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Hold up...Do we reach back before the cross to find a man's qualifications? Or only from conversion forward? You're going to disqualify a LOT of men from ministry if you start digging through their pre-Christianity lives!
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"God, send me anywhere, only go with me. Lay any burden on me, only sustain me. And sever any tie in my heart except the tie that binds my heart to Yours."
--David Livingstone
"To see no being, not God’s or any, but you also go thither,
To see no possession but you may possess it—enjoying all without labor or purchase—
abstracting the feast, yet not abstracting one particle of it;…."
--Walt Whitman, Leaves of Grass, Song of the Open Road
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11-07-2014, 10:05 PM
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Re: UPC Minister engaged to former Porn Star
I think they need to date for a while. This thing is moving too fast IMO.
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11-07-2014, 10:23 PM
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Re: UPC Minister engaged to former Porn Star
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Hold up...Do we reach back before the cross to find a man's qualifications? Or only from conversion forward? You're going to disqualify a LOT of men from ministry if you start digging through their pre-Christianity lives!
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Hey, I just looked up scripture in the New Testament, it's not my words, but Bible. Can't do anything about that. Either we believe what scripture says, or we don't. 6th Chapter Of Acts.
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11-07-2014, 10:30 PM
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Re: UPC Minister engaged to former Porn Star
Also, in the 3rd chapter of 1 Timothy it has instructions for the Bishop. And his wife in Chapter 3: 11 instructs the wife to be grave, not slanderers, sober faithful in all things. Now without time, how do we know what she is? New Testament also.
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11-07-2014, 10:34 PM
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Re: UPC Minister engaged to former Porn Star
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Hey, I just looked up scripture in the New Testament, it's not my words, but Bible. Can't do anything about that. Either we believe what scripture says, or we don't. 6th Chapter Of Acts.
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Yes, but we have to take the whole thing. If a woman's past as a (well, any kind of sinner) PRE-Christ disqualifies her from being the wife of a minister, then Paul's past as a MURDERER pre-Christ would disqualify him, too, don't you think? And how about this:
"9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.
11 And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God."" I Corinthians 6:9-11
I'm fairly certain that the qualifications for bishops and deacons apply to their Christian life; not before they were saved from being sinners.  I think you might want to hesitate before you go digging up bones.
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"God, send me anywhere, only go with me. Lay any burden on me, only sustain me. And sever any tie in my heart except the tie that binds my heart to Yours."
--David Livingstone
"To see no being, not God’s or any, but you also go thither,
To see no possession but you may possess it—enjoying all without labor or purchase—
abstracting the feast, yet not abstracting one particle of it;…."
--Walt Whitman, Leaves of Grass, Song of the Open Road
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11-07-2014, 10:36 PM
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Re: UPC Minister engaged to former Porn Star
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Also, in the 3rd chapter of 1 Timothy it has instructions for the Bishop. And his wife in Chapter 3: 11 instructs the wife to be grave, not slanderers, sober faithful in all things. Now without time, how do we know what she is? New Testament also.
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Oh, so you ARE referring only to her life after conversion, then? Why didn't you say so?
This comment made it seem like you thought that her life as a sinner would disqualify her from being a minister's wife:
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"How is the Adult Movie Woman be any different than those who are elected as Deacons in the church, especially if she is to become the first lady of the church?"
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"God, send me anywhere, only go with me. Lay any burden on me, only sustain me. And sever any tie in my heart except the tie that binds my heart to Yours."
--David Livingstone
"To see no being, not God’s or any, but you also go thither,
To see no possession but you may possess it—enjoying all without labor or purchase—
abstracting the feast, yet not abstracting one particle of it;…."
--Walt Whitman, Leaves of Grass, Song of the Open Road
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