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Old 09-05-2014, 09:46 PM
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So if the heavenly angels cannot reproduce, making baby angels...LOL, How can fallen angels reproduce(which have no ability to reproduce) with a being that is not made "after its own kind"? Please explain.
That was explained several pages back.

They left their former estate and took some sort of human form
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I would love some feedback...

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That was explained several pages back.

They left their former estate and took some sort of human form



Well, believe whatever you want to believe. Jesus said that angels neither marry nor are given in marriage....Genesis says the sons of God took wives. You must prove that Jesus was mistaken.
You guys are assuming that these half man/angels were born(these babies must have been a sight to see). That would produce newborn angels with mans genetics...LOL

Do you realize what you guys are believing. (maybe these were the first "transformers" ...lol) Satan can transform himself into what?......a man?, no, an angel of light.

Only almighty God could cause angelic beings to cross breed with another kind of being. God said in Genesis(right before this subject we are discussing) "let them reproduce after their own kind". Man is no exception. (Angels, which have NO ability to repruduce, and Man, which has the ability to reproduce are DIFFERENT "kinds" of God's creation.

This teaching of cross breeding is anti-creationist teaching. Anyone that teaches it publically is making a fool out of Christianity and equating our Christian beliefs with Mythology.

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So the belief is this....Fallen angels CANNOT reproduce with each other, but they can only reproduce with another species of God's creation.

Hey wait a minute, maybe God only created 2 fallen angels and they reproduced into millions of fallen angels, then got tired of each other and went to chasing the human women...These poor human men had no women left for themselves, the angels snagged them all up ....LOL



Maybe they were the rock monsters on the NOAH movie...LOL

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Old 09-06-2014, 08:17 AM
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Great post Aaron. That is the first time I have heard "abortion" replaced for "giants". I think though it may be a bit of a stretch though. The reason I say that is there IS evidence, or at least circumstantial evidence of the actual existence of giants in the earth in the past.
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Well, believe whatever you want to believe. Jesus said that angels neither marry nor are given in marriage....Genesis says the sons of God took wives. You must prove that Jesus was mistaken.
You guys are assuming that these half man/angels were born(these babies must have been a sight to see). That would produce newborn angels with mans genetics...LOL

Do you realize what you guys are believing. (maybe these were the first "transformers" ...lol) Satan can transform himself into what?......a man?, no, an angel of light.

Only almighty God could cause angelic beings to cross breed with another kind of being. God said in Genesis(right before this subject we are discussing) "let them reproduce after their own kind". Man is no exception. (Angels, which have NO ability to repruduce, and Man, which has the ability to reproduce are DIFFERENT "kinds" of God's creation.

This teaching of cross breeding is anti-creationist teaching. Anyone that teaches it publically is making a fool out of Christianity and equating our Christian beliefs with Mythology.
The obedient angels of God would not leave their first habitation and go and mingle with human females, nor would they have relations.
The fallen angels would not necessarily abide by these rules, since it says that they left their first habitation. which could be taken to mean their angelic being and took on human form, just like the angels who visited Lot.
The Angels which visited Lot must have been handsome for the whole city to come and want to "know them".
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Abortion is the greatest abomination imaginable. My wife has spent time in jails across the country for preaching Christ outside the mills. There may have been abortions back then.

I think tho that a majority of the ancient writers believed angels had come down. To me it flows right with Judes teaching that there were angels who kept not their first estate. Then he equates their sin to the sin of Sodom.
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The obedient angels of God would not leave their first habitation and go and mingle with human females, nor would they have relations.
The fallen angels would not necessarily abide by these rules, since it says that they left their first habitation. which could be taken to mean their angelic being and took on human form, just like the angels who visited Lot.
The Angels which visited Lot must have been handsome for the whole city to come and want to "know them".
In the story of the three men who came to visit Abraham we learn that two of them were angels one of them was YHWH.

Scripture tells us they sat and ate with Abraham. Corn bread and beef steak. So I don't understand why its so hard to think angels can take on flesh.

The story of the giants is the most obvious explanation for the existence of the various "gods" that were worshipped around the world.
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Well, believe whatever you want to believe. Jesus said that angels neither marry nor are given in marriage....
Angels don't marry because they never left their former estate and are still angels

In fact Jesus carefully stipulated they were angels in heaven

Mat 22:30 For in the resurrection they neither marry nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in Heaven.

Mar 12:25 For when they shall rise from the dead, they neither marry nor are given in marriage, but they are as the angels in Heaven.
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So the belief is this....Fallen angels CANNOT reproduce with each other, but they can only reproduce with another species of God's creation.

Hey wait a minute, maybe God only created 2 fallen angels and they reproduced into millions of fallen angels, then got tired of each other and went to chasing the human women...These poor human men had no women left for themselves, the angels snagged them all up ....LOL



Maybe they were the rock monsters on the NOAH movie...LOL
I never saw anyone say they can't reproduce with each other. The text seems to make it clear they saw WOMEN and liked what they saw and became men not women
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