I have not read this thread yet but many years ago I was blessed by Pope Paul VI at his summer residence Castle Gandolfo in Italy. It was a small courtyard so I was part of a relatively small crowd of around 500 people. When he appeared at the window he was supposed to make his short greeting / statement in five or six different languages. Apparently his english was so bad I never knew when he spoke it in english! LOL
It was a very emotional event for the Roman Catholics in the crowd (which was most of the people) and a very interesting one for a Pentecostal like myself.
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"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.
"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"
I have not read this thread yet but many years ago I was blessed by Pope Paul VI at his summer residence Castle Gandolfo in Italy. It was a small courtyard so I was part of a relatively small crowd of around 500 people. When he appeared at the window he was supposed to make his short greeting / statement in five or six different languages. Apparently his english was so bad I never knew when he spoke it! LOL
It was a very emotional event for the Roman Catholics in the crowd (which was most of the people) and a very interesting one for a Pentecostal like myself.
A friend of mine has been there twice over the last 3 years and stayed for weeks. He is pentecostal like us and a former Catholic. He said he attended a large mass directed by the Pope. The throngs of people(hundreds of thousands), along with the atmosphere of ancient Rome, created a strange euphoria of excitement.(kinda like being at the Super Bowl) Did you feel that?
A mind preoccupied with thoughts of resentment and bitterness cannot change the past nor does it wound anyone but the soul that beholds them. – Dodinsky.
Where'd the "Timmy is bitter" theme come from all of a sudden?!
And how in the world did that question trigger a response like that? You don't have to be bitter to wonder what The Church really is. Don't you wonder that?
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A friend of mine has been there twice over the last 3 years and stayed for weeks. He is pentecostal like us and a former Catholic. He said he attended a large mass directed by the Pope. The throngs of people(hundreds of thousands), along with the atmosphere of ancient Rome, created a strange euphoria of excitement.(kinda like being at the Super Bowl) Did you feel that?
Yes. People around me were weeping and it was very heartfelt. Two years ago when we were in Rome we avoided a Papal appearance at St. Peter's by an hour or two so we could avoid the crowds. These days they have metal detectors and long lines for the faithful to get into the area in front of St. Peter's for Papal appearances.
However under normal circumstances the line was not long at all to get into St. Peter's. We also took the semi-secret "excacations tour" that you have to book many months in advance and they only take about a dozen people at a time. You go under the foundation of St. Peter's to see amazing archelogical things including what the RC church believes are the bones of Peter in a box directly under the dome of St. Peter's. All of this was discovered around the WWII timeframe when they were excavating to bury a Pope and discovered these passages. I had goosebumps.
__________________ "I think some people love spiritual bondage just the way some people love physical bondage. It makes them feel secure. In the end though it is not healthy for the one who is lost over it or the one who is lives under the oppression even if by their own choice"
Titus2woman on AFF
"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.
"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"
Yes. People around me were weeping and it was very heartfelt. Two years ago when we were in Rome we avoided a Papal appearance at St. Peter's by an hour or two so we could avoid the crowds. These days they have metal detectors and long lines for the faithful to get into the area in front of St. Peter's for Papal appearances.
However under normal circumstances the line was not long at all to get into St. Peter's. We also took the semi-secret "excacations tour" that you have to book many months in advance and they only take about a dozen people at a time. You go under the foundation of St. Peter's to see amazing archelogical things including what the RC church believes are the bones of Peter in a box directly under the dome of St. Peter's. All of this was discovered around the WWII timeframe when they were excavating to bury a Pope and discovered these passages. I had goosebumps.
That would be an incredible thing to see. My friend tries to get my wife and I to come with them...they stay for a month or so...(Free with family), and offer us a free place to stay. It is tempting to go there. I just dont want to get into any debates there...They will send us back in a shipping container...LOL
Where'd the "Timmy is bitter" theme come from all of a sudden?!
And how in the world did that question trigger a response like that? You don't have to be bitter to wonder what The Church really is. Don't you wonder that?
No, you have to be bitter to post the things you consistently post. It came when another brother nailed it in response to your posts. It was precisely the words I've been personally thinking, but never actually stated.
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I have not read this thread yet but many years ago I was blessed by Pope Paul VI at his summer residence Castle Gandolfo in Italy. It was a small courtyard so I was part of a relatively small crowd of around 500 people. When he appeared at the window he was supposed to make his short greeting / statement in five or six different languages. Apparently his english was so bad I never knew when he spoke it in english! LOL
It was a very emotional event for the Roman Catholics in the crowd (which was most of the people) and a very interesting one for a Pentecostal like myself.
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Originally Posted by Sean
A friend of mine has been there twice over the last 3 years and stayed for weeks. He is pentecostal like us and a former Catholic. He said he attended a large mass directed by the Pope. The throngs of people(hundreds of thousands), along with the atmosphere of ancient Rome, created a strange euphoria of excitement.(kinda like being at the Super Bowl) Did you feel that?
I can only imagine the crowd's emotional response to the Pope. It seems we humans get very caught up so easily in the worship of another human being. There is definitely a palpable emotion that can be felt whenever an important figure in politics, royalty, or other personage is given the kind of honor that elevates them and places them on a pedestal.
That would be an incredible thing to see. My friend tries to get my wife and I to come with them...they stay for a month or so...(Free with family), and offer us a free place to stay. It is tempting to go there. I just dont want to get into any debates there...They will send us back in a shipping container...LOL
It would be a really neat trip, I am sure. If you have a free place to stay, that would be really amazing. Getting into a debate with your hostess/hostesses would definitely pose a problem though!
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