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07-07-2014, 04:58 PM
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Re: Who was Harry Morse ?
Those Azuza preachers did have some quirks.
One taught it was a sin for Christians to use medicine.
Another taught the annihilation of the wicked.
Some taught the second work of sanctification, others did not.
With regard to Harry Morse, I want to write who he was and what he taught without judging the merit of his beliefs. I do not have an ax to grind. I want to let him tell his own story.
One thing is certain: they all had unique beliefs.
I want to know what Harry believed, as normal or as odd as it may or may not be.
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07-07-2014, 05:00 PM
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Re: Who was Harry Morse ?
Wish you the best luck in finding anything. Seems that most info died with him.
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07-09-2014, 05:00 PM
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Re: Who was Harry Morse ?
Ellis Scism is my new best friend.
His book "Northwest Passage" has 2 chapters about the Big Downtown Mission and many pictures of Harry Morse.
Thank you Harry Scism for bringing the book to my attention.
The other Pentecostal archives are unaware of this book.
Progress !!!!
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07-10-2014, 07:38 AM
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The church he pastored in Oakland no longer exists. The AOG church remembers nothing of him. I was hoping if I found the church, I could find some old church records.
Not yet...
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07-15-2014, 01:57 PM
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The Azuza revival was not limited to one mission pastored by Seymour. It looks like 4 local missions shared the...revival.
One of them was pastored by Harry Morse after Frank Bartleman turned it over to him. It was one of only 2 pastorates Morse had. I am not sure he remained pastor there.
A week after the outpouring of the Holy Spirit at Azuza, San Francisco had it's infamous earthquake. A few months later, Seymour and his staff were invited by WF Mantley to hold a revival in Oakland.
This is the first post Azuza revival in Oakland. It was conducted in either the People's Mission or the Household of God. I have not figured that part out yet.
In 1915 Harry Morse brought a team to Oakland to start a church. Not unlike the team that Seymour had brought there 9 years earlier. During his time at Oakland, Morse had several of his Azuza friends preach at his church.
The connections to Azuza surprised me. I'm still learning about the connection between the Peniel Missions and Pentecostalism. The holiness movement also influenced pentecostalism. Getting a grasp on all this is a bit overwhelming.
Finding original documents and pictures is evasive. But I'm still working on it.
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07-15-2014, 03:50 PM
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Have you looked into the thesis done by Talmadge, where he covers some history? I haven't read it, so I don't know how much he may cover of Azusa St. http://etheses.bham.ac.uk/2869/7/French_11_PhD.pdf
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07-15-2014, 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Scott Pitta
The Azuza revival was not limited to one mission pastored by Seymour. It looks like 4 local missions shared the...revival.
One of them was pastored by Harry Morse after Frank Bartleman turned it over to him. It was one of only 2 pastorates Morse had. I am not sure he remained pastor there.
A week after the outpouring of the Holy Spirit at Azuza, San Francisco had it's infamous earthquake. A few months later, Seymour and his staff were invited by WF Mantley to hold a revival in Oakland.
This is the first post Azuza revival in Oakland. It was conducted in either the People's Mission or the Household of God. I have not figured that part out yet.
In 1915 Harry Morse brought a team to Oakland to start a church. Not unlike the team that Seymour had brought there 9 years earlier. During his time at Oakland, Morse had several of his Azuza friends preach at his church.
The connections to Azuza surprised me. I'm still learning about the connection between the Peniel Missions and Pentecostalism. The holiness movement also influenced pentecostalism. Getting a grasp on all this is a bit overwhelming.
Finding original documents and pictures is evasive. But I'm still working on it.
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Have you read any of the papers put out by the Azusa mission?
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07-15-2014, 09:30 PM
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Yes, the papers published by the Azuza mission are online, somewhere. I have read them. If Talmadge wrote the bio for GT Haywood, then yes, I have read some of it.
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07-19-2014, 05:17 PM
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Progress on the "social purity" doctrine.
Before Christian Life Center began as Harmony Chapel. Harmony Chapel was a church split away from a church pastored by "Sister Swift".
Sister Swift taught the "social purity" doctrine. It was one of the reasons for the church split.
Sister Swift had a training school like Harry Morse did.
Did Harry Morse learn this doctrine from Sister Swift ???
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07-19-2014, 05:38 PM
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Re: Who was Harry Morse ?
Thanks. I have really enjoyed your posts.
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