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06-28-2014, 12:38 AM
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Re: Do Any of You Still Sing Out Of The Songbook
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What else was the question asked for, then?
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Basic curiosity, as a way to get to know people and what they are like?
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06-28-2014, 07:41 AM
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Re: Do Any of You Still Sing Out Of The Songbook
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Actually its a lot more than half and the fact is that without the contributions of trinitarians Christianity isn't what it is. It is trinitarians who stood for the faith, who gave us the reformation, who wrote the large majority of beloved hymns, who spilled their blood to translate the scriptures into the vernacular, who wrote 99% of the commentaries, who founded hospitals, orphanages, and homeless shelters. It was those trinitarians who because of their faith in Christ, conviction about His authority an Word who were stretched on the rack, burned alive by the dozens, drowned, beheaded and the like for the sake of Jesus Christ and the furtherance of His gospel. It was those trinitarians who overthrew the yoke of the Roman Catholic Church, guided the church out of the Dark Ages, and reestablished congregational singing/worship, evangelical and expository preaching, taught people to pray biblically instead of the empty prayers they repeated after the catholic priest in a language they didn't understand, and reinstituted the Lords supper (both the bread and the wine) for all believers. It was also trinitarians who gave us the holiness movement and even the Pentecostal movement.
So I'm not sure why we'd be so eager to throw out everything they gave us. They are our brothers and sisters in Christ.
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06-28-2014, 07:42 AM
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Re: Do Any of You Still Sing Out Of The Songbook
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We use the song books to prop up the dilapidated pews
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06-28-2014, 09:30 AM
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Re: Do Any of You Still Sing Out Of The Songbook
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When my wife and I lead our children in family devotions, we sing from a hymnal. These can be very special times, as for one, I know the presence and majesty of God I've felt when we are studying the Word and worshipping this way.
In the local assembly, we do not sing from a hymnal, but have a praise team and words on the wall from a projector. Admittedly, this form of worship has felt less impactful to me over the years, to the point, I'd rather not have music at all (notice I didn't say no singing).
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Yes, I agree.
Music is used as a tool used to usher in the presence of the Lord, but the problem is that too many who are involved in the music are more concerned about a show and a performance, and having their time in the spotlight, and too many in the congregation are enjoying the show, and no heartfelt praise or worship comes forth.
I have seen this many times. After the praise team has sung, and the choir has given their song, sometimes the pastor just beginning to sing an old hymn or song, will bring in a sweet presence of the Lord, that all the musical talent and ability could not do.
Going back to congregational singing, where you can actually hear people's voices raised in praise to the Lord is a powerful thing, and should be considered by those who really desire the moving and presence of the Lord in the service.
There is no one easy way or formula to entertain the presence the Lord, but at the root of it all, should be heartfelt praise and worship, and His Spirit will move in that arena. If a show or performance is all that is happening, with no heartfelt worship within the hearts of either the leaders or congregants, then it will profit little.
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06-28-2014, 09:40 AM
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Re: Do Any of You Still Sing Out Of The Songbook
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Basic curiosity, as a way to get to know people and what they are like?
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I very much doubt that. I know the ultra-conservative mind. It witch hunts.
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06-28-2014, 10:14 AM
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Re: Do Any of You Still Sing Out Of The Songbook
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I very much doubt that. I know the ultra-conservative mind. It witch hunts.
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Maybe it's you that's witch hunting? Seeing a witch when everyone else sees a normal old lady?
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06-28-2014, 11:34 AM
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Re: Do Any of You Still Sing Out Of The Songbook
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we just keep on following the Trinitarian's lead, they are the head and we are the tail...
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Amen!
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06-28-2014, 01:28 PM
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Re: Do Any of You Still Sing Out Of The Songbook
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Maybe it's you that's witch hunting? Seeing a witch when everyone else sees a normal old lady?
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Check the nature of the posts.
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06-28-2014, 01:53 PM
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Re: Do Any of You Still Sing Out Of The Songbook
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Originally Posted by Jason Badejo
Actually its a lot more than half and the fact is that without the contributions of trinitarians Christianity isn't what it is. It is trinitarians who stood for the faith, who gave us the reformation, who wrote the large majority of beloved hymns, who spilled their blood to translate the scriptures into the vernacular, who wrote 99% of the commentaries, who founded hospitals, orphanages, and homeless shelters. It was those trinitarians who because of their faith in Christ, conviction about His authority an Word who were stretched on the rack, burned alive by the dozens, drowned, beheaded and the like for the sake of Jesus Christ and the furtherance of His gospel. It was those trinitarians who overthrew the yoke of the Roman Catholic Church, guided the church out of the Dark Ages, and reestablished congregational singing/worship, evangelical and expository preaching, taught people to pray biblically instead of the empty prayers they repeated after the catholic priest in a language they didn't understand, and reinstituted the Lords supper (both the bread and the wine) for all believers. It was also trinitarians who gave us the holiness movement and even the Pentecostal movement.
So I'm not sure why we'd be so eager to throw out everything they gave us. They are our brothers and sisters in Christ.
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This. ^^^^
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06-28-2014, 01:54 PM
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Re: Do Any of You Still Sing Out Of The Songbook
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Check the nature of the posts.
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Your the only here that has found fault.
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