Marty Ballestero doesn't LIKE facial hair on men!!

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

For those who think forbidding facial hair is extreme I have never forbidden:
Anyone to bury his father
Say goodbye to his parents
Sell all they have and give it away
Just saying.

Why not?

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Kevin Archer

For some strange reason these scriptures come to mind this morning.

I'm thankful for the pastoral covering in my life. I'm better for it, not abused or misused.

Scorner:X…wl luwts, loots; a primitive root; properly, to make mouths at, i.e. to scoff; hence (from the effort to pronounce a foreign language) to interpret, or (generally) intercede:—ambassador, have in derision, interpreter, make a mock, mocker, scorn(-er, -ful), teacher.


Prov. 9:7 He that reproveth a scorner getteth to himself shame: and he that rebuketh a wicked man getteth himself a blot.

Prov. 9:8 Reprove not a scorner, lest he hate thee: rebuke a wise man, and he will love thee.

Prov. 13:1 ¶ A wise son heareth his father’s instruction: but a scorner heareth not rebuke.

Prov. 14:6 ¶ A scorner seeketh wisdom, and findeth it not: but knowledge is easy unto him that understandeth.

Prov. 15:12 ¶ A scorner loveth not one that reproveth him: neither will he go unto the wise.

Prov. 19:25 ¶ Smite a scorner, and the simple will beware: and reprove one that hath understanding, and he will understand knowledge.

What do those verse have to forcing people to obey unbiblical commands?

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Rudy

This was for the sake of sinners, not to comply with the whims of fellow brethren.

Originally Posted by Kevin Archer

prove it

Well maybe the original author can "Prove it" that it was for the sake of fellow brethren...

Think about it...This was chapter 16 and just before that in chapter 15 the Apostles DECREED that the Gentiles did not have to be circumcised

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by kclee4jc

What it did not specify is whether they were believing Jews or unbelieving. Most likely both. Really is irrellevant. Point being, he was circumcised out of respect for someone else's preference.

Where does it say "respect"?

[Praxeas]

sn His father was Greek. Under Jewish law at least as early as the 2nd century, a person was considered Jewish if his or her mother was Jewish. It is not certain whether such a law was in effect in the 1st century, but even if it was, Timothy would not have been accepted as fully Jewish because he was not circumcised.

NET bible commentary

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by ILG

So, let's define scorner.

Scorner: Someone who disagree that facial hair on men is wrong.

A scorner is someone who won't receive reproof for teaching false unbiblical doctrines.

They are the scorners...it just came to me

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by AR Pastor

why can't the hairy except the clean shaven and leave us be. We let you be, you are free to have your fellowship as you see fit to so let us do the same.

You have that backwards. Men with beards have no problem fellowshipping and accepting you.

It's your side that does not accept men with beards

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

Jesus saves them then we shave them.

Would you shave Jesus?

[Reader]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

Here is the funny thing. The reason Paul did that was because the Jews knew his father was a greek but his mother was a Jew. But JUST BEFORE THIS they all decreed by Apostolic council that the Gentiles did NOT have to be circumcized

Neither and I doubt Timothy was required to do it. Timothy was half Jewish. He didn't have to do anything at all but clearly he allowed it.

It's not the same comparison. Our modern society does not have a phobia over beards or mustaches let alone have one on religious grounds.

I believe Paul did this to protect Timothy from the religious nut jobs just like in Muslim nations women who are not muslims wear a head covering not just out of respect but for fear of their lives

We are talking about a pastors PERSONAL PREFERENCE and he forces on others.

Beat you to it!

[Michael The Disciple]

Heres how we know Yeshua and all the apostles had beards.

19:27 “‘You shall not cut the hair on the sides of your heads, neither shall you clip off the edge of your beard. Leviticus 19:27

It was a commandment of the law given by YHWH!

So can we see what a MAJOR PROBLEM some in our day have? They would be suspecting that Christ and his apostles were full of pride. They would certainly NOT have fellowship with them.

And so according to their own words they are refusing the Biblical Christ at least on this issue.