Marty Ballestero doesn't LIKE facial hair on men!!

[jfrog]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

Getting ready to be busy got to go shave to keep my testimony. You fuzzy face guys go wash that nasty thing. The egg yellow and gravy is not comely. Saved and shaved in Missouri.

Haha, Be sure you cut that face of yours. It could use some scars, it looks too feminine as is :P jkjk

[Kevin Archer]

Originally Posted by jfrog

In my experience usually when someone posts those kinds of scriptures they have a reason for doing so. I mean if you were just quoting scripture why didn't you post a few about Jesus saving us? Why not some about him coming back in the clouds? Why not some from Song of Solomon? Why not the one that says "Blessed be the man who dasheth their little ones head against the rocks." There's lots of passages you could have quoted. But you chose that one and I feel I'm justified in assuming it was for a reason, to call someone a scorner...

You don't have to lie about what you did. I mean it's obvious whether you admit it or not.

I highlighted the lie for you.

[jfrog]

Originally Posted by Kevin Archer

I highlighted the lie for you.

Then tell me, why did you choose to quote that scripture on this thread at that time? Why oh why?

[Steve Epley]

Originally Posted by jfrog

Then tell me, why did you choose to quote that scripture on this thread at that time? Why oh why?

Could it be for examination?

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

Thanks for your service to our nation.

How can any man say he's thankful for my service, when I served to protect liberty... when they conspire to keep men in legalistic religious bondage?

Now back to the subject so whiskers AND cigars are no biggie to you? If so you have made my point.

Ever shoot a man? Ever find yourself being shot at? The last thing you worry about is a stupid beard or cigar. When you stare down the barrel of a gun... you quickly realize what is truly important and what isn't. You read that Bible like it's your very life and salvation... not to cherry pick verses to sustain some outdated legalistic code.

Cigars are unhealthy. So is McDonald's. Yet I don't see preachers sending people to Hell over super value meals. While I don't advocate smoking a cigar... I don't condemn a man to Hell over it either. It's a health issue... not a sin issue. Besides... in biblical times they customarily chewed khat after dinner to cleanse the teeth. The men would be gathered in one room with a bowl of it placed on the floor in the middle. They'd chew it and socialize. Today, we know that khat contains a amphetamine-like stimulant, which is said to cause excitement, loss of appetite and euphoria. Khat was chewed as far back as ancient Egypt and was first recorded import as an herb was from Ethiopia and Yemen during what is believed to be the time of Solomon. Most likely... Jesus and the disciples chewed it after meals, as was customary in their day. So, I don't see any reason to get my panties in a bunch over a cigar... or a beard.

Jesus and other drank wine, it's alcohol content made it safer than the water. Millions of people speak Greek today and they can tell you... oinos isn't grape juice.

While the facts may not reflect the spit and polished image of the refined traditions of men... facts are facts. But most legalists have never allowed the facts to get in the way of their man made religion.

[jfrog]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

Could it be for examination?

I like how you always assume the best from people

[Kevin Archer]

Originally Posted by Kevin Archer

I'm sorry you feel that way.
You're trying to put words in my mouth. You may be making a obvious point without even knowing that you're doing it.

Originally Posted by Kevin Archer

If a baptist believed one must be clean shaven, would his doctrine be "Once Shaved;Always Shaved"?...

Originally Posted by Kevin Archer

Here's a good clean shaven baptist worship song: "Shaved by Grace"

(to be sung to the tune of Bro McGruder's song "Saved by Grace"...

Originally Posted by Kevin Archer

A man once went to a baptist barber for a shave and a hair cut.
The barber was too busy to do both, so he had the customer go to his wife's chair for the shave. He never had to shave again for the rest of his life!!!

When one is shaved by Grace, they are Once Shaved/Always shaved.....

Originally Posted by Kevin Archer

I'm not defining a scorner. Just posting some scriptures about them. If the scripture applies...fix what's wrong. If not, quit trying to draw me into a fight with words that I did not speak

Here are the posts that I've made. No name calling anywhere.

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

I think styled beards are pride how is that?

At least if Paul stood in front of us he wouldn't think I was gay. How's that? lol

Be proud to be straight... wear a beard.

They have a word for people who don't wear beards... women. lol

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by anon5

Yes, that is true. The more liberal the church, the higher the turnover rate. But again, it's about free agency, or free will. Life is a journey, and we came here to grow and learn. Sometimes God has things for us to learn in one spot, and sometimes not. And sometimes to our eyes it only APPEARS to be a certain way, or conclusion.

Liberal pastors typically don't act like they own their congregation members. They are free to go where so ever the Spirit leads them.

[jfrog]

Originally Posted by Kevin Archer

Here are the posts that I've made. No name calling anywhere.

Wasn't it you that posted the scripture about scorners?