Marty Ballestero doesn't LIKE facial hair on men!!

[Rudy]

Originally Posted by kclee4jc

What it did not specify is whether they were believing Jews or unbelieving. Most likely both. Really is irrellevant. Point being, he was circumcised out of respect for someone else's preference.

For sinners.

[AR Pastor]

Originally Posted by kclee4jc

I have not heard anyone say that beards are offensive to God, but they are to some people. Many in civil society disdain an unkept appearance so it is quite possible that a beard would be a hamper to one’s witness among certain people groups. I have never heard of anyone that was alarmed at a clean shaven face.

Timothy was a young man when Paul circumcised him. It is very clear that Paul circumcised him because of Jews that were in the region they were going to. Paul did not believe that circumcision was offensive to God but knew that it would be offensive to some people, therefore he as Timothy’s elder REQUIRED that he be circumcised to utilize his efforts in their current missionary endeavor.

That said, would you rather be required to be circumcised as a young man or be required to shave. If Timothy was willing to submit to the knife of most likely a very painful circumcision, just to maintain the respect of the Jews, then why is it so difficult for some just to shave if they wish to maintain fellowship with the larger conservative Apostolic Movement.
Speaking as a young man, I think I would make an issue out circumcision way before I would out of shaving.

Every time I have to shave overtop of razorburn before heading to church, I just remind myself "It could be worse!"

[ILG]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

For those who think forbidding facial hair is extreme I have never forbidden:
Anyone to bury his father
Say goodbye to his parents
Sell all they have and give it away
Just saying.

Why not?

[Steve Epley]

Originally Posted by ILG

Why not?

Why?

[ILG]

Originally Posted by Kevin Archer

For some strange reason these scriptures come to mind this morning.

I'm thankful for the pastoral covering in my life. I'm better for it, not abused or misused.

Scorner:X…wl luwts, loots; a primitive root; properly, to make mouths at, i.e. to scoff; hence (from the effort to pronounce a foreign language) to interpret, or (generally) intercede:—ambassador, have in derision, interpreter, make a mock, mocker, scorn(-er, -ful), teacher.


Prov. 9:7 He that reproveth a scorner getteth to himself shame: and he that rebuketh a wicked man getteth himself a blot.

Prov. 9:8 Reprove not a scorner, lest he hate thee: rebuke a wise man, and he will love thee.

Prov. 13:1 ¶ A wise son heareth his father’s instruction: but a scorner heareth not rebuke.

Prov. 14:6 ¶ A scorner seeketh wisdom, and findeth it not: but knowledge is easy unto him that understandeth.

Prov. 15:12 ¶ A scorner loveth not one that reproveth him: neither will he go unto the wise.

Prov. 19:25 ¶ Smite a scorner, and the simple will beware: and reprove one that hath understanding, and he will understand knowledge.

So, let's define scorner.

Scorner: Someone who disagree that facial hair on men is wrong.

[AR Pastor]

Originally Posted by Kevin Archer

For some strange reason these scriptures come to mind this morning.

I'm thankful for the pastoral covering in my life. I'm better for it, not abused or misused.

Scorner:X…wl luwts, loots; a primitive root; properly, to make mouths at, i.e. to scoff; hence (from the effort to pronounce a foreign language) to interpret, or (generally) intercede:—ambassador, have in derision, interpreter, make a mock, mocker, scorn(-er, -ful), teacher.


Prov. 9:7 He that reproveth a scorner getteth to himself shame: and that rebuketh a wicked man getteth himself a blot.

Prov. 9:8 Reprove not a scorner, lest he hate thee: rebuke a wise man, and he will love thee.

Prov. 13:1 ¶ A wise son heareth his father’s instruction: but a scorner heareth not rebuke.

Prov. 14:6 ¶ A scorner seeketh wisdom, and findeth it not: but knowledge is easy unto him that understandeth.

Prov. 15:12 ¶ A scorner loveth not one that reproveth him: neither will he go unto the wise.

Prov. 19:25 ¶ Smite a scorner, and the simple will beware: and reprove one that hath understanding, and he will understand knowledge.

good post

[ILG]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

Why?

It's biblical.

[Steve Epley]

Originally Posted by Rudy

For sinners.

See. got it straight from Heaven this morning.

[Steve Epley]

Originally Posted by ILG

It's biblical.

And you have done that?

[AR Pastor]

Now after 37 pages of discussion who has changed their position?

Most likely no one and no one will.

So let the hairy folks have their fellowship and we will have ours and everyone should be happy.

why can't the hairy except the clean shaven and leave us be. We let you be, you are free to have your fellowship as you see fit to so let us do the same.