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Old 06-11-2014, 09:13 PM
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I've never once encountered that belief.
You have never heard of these ministers? Steve Epley can tell you. I think I recall another posting once how he showed in a non-white shirt to a gathering.
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Old 06-11-2014, 09:13 PM
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I've never once encountered that belief.
I have experienced this. don't this believe it though. But that is their right if that is what they do.
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Old 06-11-2014, 09:18 PM
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I was brought up that it was wrong. I grew up during the 60's and 70's and to me it represents rebellion. So I am very uncomfortable with it.

And again those that I have been acquainted that have facial hair have always had a number of other things that we disagreed with. this has been my experience.
Thanks for the honest answers. I definitely understand why it would make you uncomfortable.

I don't expect in answer to this next question and I mean this with all due respect because I know you mean the best for the kingdom of God with your stance against beards. I've heard it preached before that sometimes we have to be willing to leave our comfort zones in order to see a great move of God. I've heard that very message preached in some of the most conservative churches I've attended. Could that message apply to your uncomfortableness with beards?
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Many years ago, an evangelist stayed in my parents home and told me of a series of services he was supposed to preach for a minister before coming to the church my father pastored. He said he got off the plane, was greeted by the pastor and then told he would not be able to preach after all, because he was wearing a wedding ring. The evangelist offered to remove it while he was there, and the pastor told him it wouldn't matter, he wasn't going to allow someone wearing a wedding ring to preach in his church. So the evangelist was left at the airport on his own.

Ridiculousness.
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Old 06-11-2014, 09:21 PM
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Many years ago, an evangelist stayed in my parents home and told me of a series of services he was supposed to preach for a minister before coming to the church my father pastored. He said he got off the plane, was greeted by the pastor and then told he would not be able to preach after all, because he was wearing a wedding ring. The evangelist offered to remove it while he was there, and the pastor told him it wouldn't matter, he wasn't going to allow someone wearing a wedding ring to preach in his church. So the evangelist was left at the airport on his own.

Ridiculousness.
I don't believe the pastor handled that right. But if he really believed the bible was against jewelry then i can understand not allowing the man to preach at his church. He likely shouldn't have just left him at the airport though.
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I don't believe the pastor handled that right. But if he really believed the bible was against jewelry then i can understand not allowing the man to preach at his church. He likely shouldn't have just left him at the airport though.
You would think he'd vet the evangelist before having him come preach.

At one point many years ago, long before I got married, I debated whether or not I'd wear a ring. At that time, I wanted to evangelize and wanted to make sure there wouldn't be any issues.

Years passed, I got married and I'm wearing a cheap, simple, silver wedding band. If anyone thinks I'm going to hell over it...whatever.
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I don't believe the pastor handled that right. But if he really believed the bible was against jewelry then i can understand not allowing the man to preach at his church. He likely shouldn't have just left him at the airport though.
The pastor should have found out the man's stance in advance. He should not have left him at the airport.

I do not use preacher who wear rings or if their wife wears rings. But I find all this out in advance. We should know those who labor among us.

But again I feel it was wrong to leave a man stranded at the airport like that.
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When things happen as ndavid described, I see it as that Pharisaical spirit. They are looking down on the "sinner" & elevating themselves to be better somehow - and not doing one thing to help the individual they view as lacking & in error.
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The cause of disunity between the Ultra Conservatives and everyone else isn't solely the UC's fault. Mutual respect is a two way street and the more liberal leaning members often give the UC members less respect than the UC members give back to them.
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I know things transpire from the other side as well. I was speaking strictly in regard to the story ndavid shared.
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