Marty Ballestero doesn't LIKE facial hair on men!! - Page 26

Reader · #**251** 06-11-2014, 08:59 PM

Luke 18:9-14

King James Version (KJV)

9 And he spake this parable unto certain which trusted in themselves that they were righteous, and despised others:

10 Two men went up into the temple to pray; the one a Pharisee, and the other a publican.

11 The Pharisee stood and prayed thus with himself, God, I thank thee, that I am not as other men are, extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even as this publican.

12 I fast twice in the week, I give tithes of all that I possess.

13 And the publican, standing afar off, would not lift up so much as his eyes unto heaven, but smote upon his breast, saying, God be merciful to me a sinner.

14 I tell you, this man went down to his house justified rather than the other: for every one that exalteth himself shall be abased; and he that humbleth himself shall be exalted.

shag · #**252** 06-11-2014, 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by jfrog

Beards are prideful?

A smooth face not fellow shipping w a bearded man, or vise versa, based on zero scripture, divides the body, and likely stems from pride, and is a pharisaical stumbling block toward the building His Kingdom, IMO.

Foolishness.

Not aware of too many bearded men that won't fellowship smooth faced men. And if they don't, I'd guess they likely have pride issues.

jfrog · #**253** 06-11-2014, 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Reader

Jfrog, it would appear that they consider it some type of slippery slope. At least from a couple of the responses.

ARP stated "Every time I have seen a man grow facial hair he winds up going lib on other things." & " I have found that if we disagree on this matter we will disagree on other matters."

I disagree. I'm gathering that its more of an experience thing. They have never met one beard wearer that they haven't greatly disagreed with. I would tend to avoid fellowshipping with beard wearers if that was the case too. Maybe it's an old fashioned response but if I'm finding a pattern in all people that have a certain characteristic I'm going to get to be more and more cautious around such individuals in the future. I am okay with that reasoning. However if a beard wearer basically agrees on everything else I hope fellowship would be granted (albeit cautiously at first).

jfrog · #**254** 06-11-2014, 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by AR Pastor

TO be honest probably not.

Thanks for the honesty. In this hypothetical situation can you elaborate on why you would not fellowship with a bearded man that agrees with all your other beliefs? I'm just wanting to better understand where you are coming from.

Sweet Pea · #**255** 06-11-2014, 09:04 PM

This thread makes me sad. People are lost, dying and going to hell and we are arguing over facial hair. People are refusing to "fellowship" just because a minister allows facial hair.

Read the obituaries in your local newspaper. Of those deaths, how many attended your "sanctified" churches? How many murders were committed? How many drug overdoses? How many children were abused? The list could go on.

I have a feeling that God is shaking His head......

jfrog · #**256** 06-11-2014, 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Sweet Pea

This thread makes me sad. People are lost, dying and going to hell and we are arguing over facial hair. People are refusing to "fellowship" just because a minister allows facial hair.

Read the obituaries in your local newspaper. Of those deaths, how many attended your "sanctified" churches? How many murders were committed? How many drug overdoses? How many children were abused? The list could go on.

I have a feeling that God is shaking His head......

I feel you could have gave more of your money to the poor this month. Maybe God is shaking his head...

Reader · #**257** 06-11-2014, 09:06 PM

Maybe it's like how some believe the ministers and men must wear white shirts to services?

jfrog · #**258** 06-11-2014, 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Reader

Maybe it's like how some believe the ministers and men must wear white shirts to services?

I've never once encountered that belief.

AR Pastor · #**259** 06-11-2014, 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by jfrog

Thanks for the honesty. In this hypothetical situation can you elaborate on why you would not fellowship with a bearded man that agrees with all your other beliefs? I'm just wanting to better understand where you are coming from.

I was brought up that it was wrong. I grew up during the 60's and 70's and to me it represents rebellion. So I am very uncomfortable with it.

And again those that I have been acquainted that have facial hair have always had a number of other things that we disagreed with. this has been my experience.

jfrog · #**260** 06-11-2014, 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by shag

A smooth face not fellow shipping w a bearded man, or vise versa, based on zero scripture, divides the body, and likely stems from pride, and is a pharisaical stumbling block toward the building His Kingdom, IMO.

Foolishness.

Not aware of too many bearded men that won't fellowship smooth faced men. And if they don't, I'd guess they likely have pride issues.

Well it is true that clean shaven men can be just as prideful of their clean shaven faces and a bearded man can be of his bearded face...

I don't think the brothers we are speaking to have that kind of pride though. Most of them realize their face is uglier than sin with or without a beard... jk