Bott '14

[n david]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

Another thing, David. If the minister quoted Maxwell as right, he trumped JA on idiocy. Did you think to realize the harm he would heap on pastors, teaching it was all their fault and hard to bear? What a dumb thing to say and teach.

You can attack the message without attacking the messenger. He could have called out the statement as wrong, stupid, etc without saying Gleason is an idiot who needs brain surgery.

Or do we not act like gentleman and behave with a little semblance of dignity, respect and love behind the pulpit anymore?

[Jason B]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

Listen, David, he has been speaking this way since he began and it isn't the first time he preached at BOTT. If AM doesn't have a problem with him, neither do I.

Really? If AM doesn't have a problem with it neither do you? Do you think for yourself? Do you recognize arrogance, insolence, and hate when you see it? Or it OK if it comes from your side?

PO you are so much smarter than that.

[Abiding Now]

Originally Posted by Justin

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LIiU6ht1fFs

JA was definitely addressing the ministry ("you guys") in the video. He walks right over and stands if front of Kevin Cox and TFT and is looking right at the preachers when he makes his "you're an idiot" remark. So sad.

[Jason B]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

Another thing, David. If the minister quoted Maxwell as right, he trumped JA on idiocy. Did you think to realize the harm he would heap on pastors, teaching it was all their fault and hard to bear? What a dumb thing to say and teach.

Right because its OK to call Maxwell an idiot since he's not "one of us". Great way to win the trinitarians.

But isn't that also demeaning AM since he had Maxwell speak at POA a while back?

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by n david

You can attack the message without attacking the messenger. He could have called out the statement as wrong, stupid, etc without saying Gleason is an idiot who needs brain surgery.

Or do we not act like gentleman and behave with a little semblance of dignity, respect and love behind the pulpit anymore?

Gentleman? Isn't this your post to Jermyn?

Originally Posted by n david

I'm not being objective?! That's funny, coming from someone who believes obama does no wrong. obama could fart and you would ask where to buy a bottle of the smell.

I'm just sayin'.... I hope you know I had to type that word in the search engine to get the exact quote.

[Jason B]

Originally Posted by Abiding Now

JA was definitely addressing the ministry ("you guys") in the video. He walks right over and stands if front of Kevin Cox and TFT and is looking right at the preachers when he makes his "you're an idiot" remark. So sad.

Who cares what the video says, they've already got an alternative narrative.

That's their story and they're stick in to it. Damage control is in full swing.

PO has even gone MSNBC on us. Legendary partisanship.

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by Jason Badejo

Really? If AM doesn't have a problem with it neither do you? Do you think for yourself? Do you recognize arrogance, insolence, and hate when you see it? Or it OK if it comes from your side?

PO you are so much smarter than that.

Normally, I just read AFF posts and I don't have to think, right?

Seriously, I would want to hear the whole sermon. And I never have had a problem with JA's preaching style. But, I think there are some times where you can insert the word "idiot" in the wrong place. This is probably one example. Mainly, because the audience was shocked even knowing him so well. After listening to it a couple of times, I got used to it and blew it off.

Anyway, I still am of the opinion that if AM doesn't have a problem with JA, neither do I.

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by Jason Badejo

Who cares what the video says, they've already got an alternative narrative.

That's their story and they're stick in to it. Damage control is in full swing.

PO has even gone MSNBC on us. Legendary partisanship.

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by Jason Badejo

Right because its OK to call Maxwell an idiot since he's not "one of us". Great way to win the trinitarians.

But isn't that also demeaning AM since he had Maxwell speak at POA a while back?

It isn't because he is not "one of us". It's because his statement is idiotic. And for a "one of us" to repeat it and support it, is also idiotic. Both are idiots and the "one of us" needs a come to Jesus meeting. Don't dump that false narrative on the ministry.

[n david]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

Gentleman? Isn't this your post to Jermyn?

You can't be serious. *smh

Comparing my post to JD to Arnold calling another minister an idiot who needs brain surgery??!!

How in the world does that even come close to comparing? It doesn't.