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01-24-2014, 07:58 PM
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I'm not sure what context the Obama statements were made but I don't see a lot of room for that stuff in any pulpit I'm behind. I guess some of these guys get really comfortable.
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01-24-2014, 08:37 PM
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Re: Bott '14
BOTT is still a successful conference. The people who go enjoy it and have positive things to say and the people who don't go anymore talk trash. Predictable. 
I went with my parents as a kid and even I enjoyed BOTT. I was never bored, and I had some really good experiences there, both in church and out. IMO, if you don't like BOTT, then you probably don't enjoy traditional Pentecost or its people/culture in general. Understandable, if that's your perspective, but expecting people who DO enjoy BOTT to care about that is like expecting them to care what the local Elk's Lodge thinks of the conference. 
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01-24-2014, 08:49 PM
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Re: Bott '14
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Originally Posted by endtimer
I'm not sure what context the Obama statements were made but I don't see a lot of room for that stuff in any pulpit I'm behind. I guess some of these guys get really comfortable.
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Certain *old favorites* are given a lot of rope. You go to some sessions knowing you're going to be shocked...or even offended. I felt that way when my Dad attended ultra-con conferences. It was a little intimidating sitting there with my UPCI-licensed Dad while the preacher yelled about how UPCers were going to hell. LOL!!! But then later we would go to the fellowship hall and my Dad would sit down and fellowship with the same hard-nosed guys we were just listening to. Maybe I learned from him how to let things roll off. 
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"God, send me anywhere, only go with me. Lay any burden on me, only sustain me. And sever any tie in my heart except the tie that binds my heart to Yours."
--David Livingstone
"To see no being, not God’s or any, but you also go thither,
To see no possession but you may possess it—enjoying all without labor or purchase—
abstracting the feast, yet not abstracting one particle of it;…."
--Walt Whitman, Leaves of Grass, Song of the Open Road
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01-24-2014, 08:56 PM
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BOTT is still a successful conference. The people who go enjoy it and have positive things to say and the people who don't go anymore talk trash. Predictable. I went with my parents as a kid and even I enjoyed BOTT. I was never bored, and I had some really good experiences there, both in church and out. IMO, if you don't like BOTT, then you probably don't enjoy traditional Pentecost or its people/culture in general. Understandable, if that's your perspective, but expecting people who DO enjoy BOTT to care about that is like expecting them to care what the local Elk's Lodge thinks of the conference. |
I agree. I've been to BOTT a few times and watched countless videos of it and found it to be a tremendous blessing and encouragement. I don't consider myself to be classical or traditional Pentecost but I can relate to the message and "spirit" of the conference. Concerning the speaker in question, I love this mans ministry despite his unfortunate choice of words.
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01-24-2014, 09:42 PM
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Re: Bott '14
Something's are not justifiable. They doing damage control already.
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01-24-2014, 11:24 PM
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Re: Bott '14
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Originally Posted by MissBrattified
BOTT is still a successful conference. The people who go enjoy it and have positive things to say and the people who don't go anymore talk trash. Predictable.
I went with my parents as a kid and even I enjoyed BOTT. I was never bored, and I had some really good experiences there, both in church and out. IMO, if you don't like BOTT, then you probably don't enjoy traditional Pentecost or its people/culture in general. Understandable, if that's your perspective, but expecting people who DO enjoy BOTT to care about that is like expecting them to care what the local Elk's Lodge thinks of the conference. |
There you said it!
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01-25-2014, 10:49 AM
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Re: Bott '14
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Originally Posted by MissBrattified
Certain *old favorites* are given a lot of rope. You go to some sessions knowing you're going to be shocked...or even offended. I felt that way when my Dad attended ultra-con conferences. It was a little intimidating sitting there with my UPCI-licensed Dad while the preacher yelled about how UPCers were going to hell. LOL!!! But then later we would go to the fellowship hall and my Dad would sit down and fellowship with the same hard-nosed guys we were just listening to. Maybe I learned from him how to let things roll off. |
Your Dad is a wise man.
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01-25-2014, 12:22 PM
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Re: Bott '14
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SG was the latest of speakers to make the statement. SG was not the only one embracing and stating the idea that worked up the ire of the offending speaker. SG being the latest defiantly took the perceived brunt of the accusation. Either way tact would have been nice.
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Originally Posted by Truthseeker
Something's are not justifiable. They doing damage control already.
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What are you both talking about?
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01-25-2014, 02:00 PM
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Re: Bott '14
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Didn't go this year. Watched the video that leaked out. That video is reportedly MIA now. My understanding that I'm getting from other forums with people that were there, the faggot and queer words were used at some point but not in reference to the POTUS. The speaker was stating that those "christians" who voted for Obama need to repent. Far as I've heard so far POTUS wasn't called a "fag" . Tact would have been nice still.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LIiU6ht1fFs
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01-25-2014, 02:37 PM
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Re: Bott '14
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LIiU6ht1fFs
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Cringeworthy, for sure. 
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--David Livingstone
"To see no being, not God’s or any, but you also go thither,
To see no possession but you may possess it—enjoying all without labor or purchase—
abstracting the feast, yet not abstracting one particle of it;…."
--Walt Whitman, Leaves of Grass, Song of the Open Road
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