Bott '14

[n david]

Originally Posted by Abiding Now

The speakers all use the Bible as their reference point.

If the speakers wore t-shirts and ripped jeans, sat on stools, and gave a vanilla creme cupcake message, BOTT would be more popular with JS.

[Abiding Now]

Originally Posted by n david

If the speakers wore t-shirts and ripped jeans, sat on stools, and gave a vanilla creme cupcake message, BOTT would be more popular with JS.

or...........

[n david]

Is that TD Jakes and LL Cool J? Yeah, something like that might work.

[Jack Shephard]

Originally Posted by n david

Have you attended a BOTT conference? It's a great conference for Pastors and leaders. What do you mean by "all the sermons are the same?"

To be fair I've never been to one, but for years I have either wathced online or via DVD every sermon from every service and the panels they have for questions and such for roughly 10 years. Some sermons were good, but they all end up to be a kind of "rally the troops" type of thing.

[Jack Shephard]

Originally Posted by n david

If the speakers wore t-shirts and ripped jeans, sat on stools, and gave a vanilla creme cupcake message, BOTT would be more popular with JS.

I am not talking about how they dress so much. Although I am sure it is a fashion show there with who wears the best suits and shoes or whatever. Any how... Also, I don't like vanilla creme cupcakes.

[n david]

Originally Posted by Jack Shephard

To be fair I've never been to one, but for years I have either wathced online or via DVD every sermon from every service and the panels they have for questions and such for roughly 10 years. Some sermons were good, but they all end up to be a kind of "rally the troops" type of thing.

Fair enough. Consider the audience though. BOTT is for Pastors and other leaders. Men and women who spend their year preaching, teaching, and expending themselves in other ways. This is refreshing for them. It's a few days where they can be encouraged and challenged.

Is "rally the troops" a bad thing? It's a war-time slogan which referred to pep talks given to unite the troops for a common cause.

If ever there is time to "rally the troops," it's now. Pastors are under intense pressure in this day and age. It's a thankless job. Instead of encouragement and support, most Pastors only get criticism and hate. I've read of 2 or 3 Pastors who have committed suicide in the past few months. They need a "rally the troops" message.

[Charnock]

There's little practical value to conferences like these. An emotional high doesn't mitigate the damage inflicted by unrealistic expectations, a flawed message and an increasingly uninterested world.

[n david]

Originally Posted by Charnock

There's little practical value to conferences like these. An emotional high doesn't mitigate the damage inflicted by unrealistic expectations, a flawed message and an increasingly uninterested world.

Try telling that to the one's who actually attend the conference.

[Charnock]

Originally Posted by n david

Try telling that to the one's who actually attend the conference.

And then talk to them a month or two afterward. I wonder if any of those suicides you mentioned attended this sort of conference?

[n david]

Originally Posted by Charnock

And then talk to them a month or two afterward. I wonder if any of those suicides you mentioned attended this sort of conference?