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Old 05-13-2013, 05:46 AM
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Gingrich: "How Can You Trust Them w Healthcare?"

Great quote from Newt this morning on MSNBC: "If this government will do this type of thing with the IRS, how can you trust them with your personal healthcare information?"
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Glad to see people like Chuck Todd ("Why aren't more Democrats jumping on this story") and Tom Brokaw ("I'm offended by it") angry about this as well.

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Newt Gingrich: The Obama admin won’t profile terrorists, but they’ll profile ‘patriots’? This is almost madness [video]

Newt says that Obamacare is going to have big problems over this scandal because of its heavy reliance on the IRS.

Newt: He has a huge problem because Obamacare relies very heavily on the IRS. Now every American understands elements of the IRS that go off on their own, do what they want to. The effort now is to say it was low level employees. yet, those low level employees apparently saw public reports that they weren't doing what they were doing and nobody informed the IRS or the Treasury. I think the president has to say he is opening it up totally and demand everybody meet with Congress, go to the Hearings. he is going to fire everybody he can legally fire who has been involved in this, and they have got to look at changes. How can you put Obamacare under the Internal Revenue Service? Remember. is this the Administration which will not profile terrorists but profile patriots? Profile Constitutional groups? I mean, this is almost madness.

Newt: Carl, it's really sad to see somebody who was so willing to take on government 40 years ago as apologizing for the government. If you're a normal citizen and anonymous, IRS agent comes after you, you're in big trouble. We were told this was centralized in one city and all the IRS Commissioner had to do was pick up the phone and call Cincinnati. They all knew where this was. Apparently, even inside the IRS, if you want to take that their version they couldn't get the bureaucracy to tell them the truth. My point is, Carl, why would you trust the bureaucracy with your health if you can't trust the bureaucracy or your politicians? Even taking your analysis, there are bureaucrats in the IRS who are capable of ruining your life while lying about it and that is what we are up against. The parallel between Benghazi and the IRS story is amazing. lying and then lying about lying and hiding from the fact they are lying and seeking to apologize for the lies they claim that they didn't tell. This is a pattern of big government that believes it's more important than the American people.

Newt: He also owes every Tea Party in America, every group called patriot, I mean, every group that wants to study the Constitution an apology. How can you have an American government profiled against the word patriot? There is something culturally sick if the American government says, 'Boy, you put that word Constitution in your name, we are going to come after you.' Again, this isn't an administration shocked at the idea of profiling for terrorism but apparently had an entire part of the IRS that was profiling for patriotism. I find that to be very, very chilling in terms of our political liberty.

Joe Scarborough: "The weekly standards reports this - 12 changes in 24 hours. everybody in that Briefing Room, Newt, knew that what Jay was saying on Friday just wasn't the truth. I was stunned that he stuck to a line that had been blown apart by the "Weekly Standard" first and then Jonathan Karl, second. Steven Hayes, great job at the "Weekly Standard" by the way.

Newt: This slogans why Conservatives are so continually afraid of big government. Bring in the Secretary of AAJS who is getting money, probably illegally, and Benghazi the top people in the administration, the President and the Secretary of State and the Ambassador to the United Nations lied to the American people and the IRS which has the power to go into any business, any foundation, any home, and destroy a person with the power that they have got. The reason Conservatives distrust big government is because in the end, this is the kind of stuff you drift towards and you look at Benghazi, the fact that General Petraeus said they would not use the talking points and he was the head of the CIA. The leadership in the building, referring to the State Department. the leadership in the building didn't like the CIA talking about it. Now, who was the leadership? Was it Secretary Clinton? Was there a secretary leader? You just look at the record. You look at the transcripts. You look at the e-mails. Benghazi is a case study. This doesn't have the President's fingerprints and this isn't in the White House and this isn't what you used to investigate?

http://www.therightscoop.com/newt-gi...medium=twitter

And on top of that:

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Lamar Alexander slams Sebelius over Iran-Contra-style health care scandal

“Such private fundraising circumvents the constitutional requirement that only Congress may appropriate funds. If the secretary or others in her department are closely coordinating the activities of Enroll America, which is headed by a former White House aide, then those actions may be in violation of the Anti-Deficiency Act,” he said.

The Washington Post reported Friday that Sebelius is asking private companies involved in health care to contribute funds to Enroll America, a nonprofit that is working to help implement the Affordable Care Act by enrolling the uninsured and educating Americans on the new law.

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2013/05/13/la...#ixzz2TBbp9PTZ
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Old 05-13-2013, 09:24 AM
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There are a host of reasons Obamacare should be repealed. The use of the IRS as enforcer has just become the biggest problem. They have zero credibility and should be completely removed from the process.
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There are a host of reasons Obamacare should be repealed. The use of the IRS as enforcer has just become the biggest problem. They have zero credibility and should be completely removed from the process.
I understand the House is voting to repeal today.
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Old 05-14-2013, 06:48 PM
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Re: Gingrich: "How Can You Trust Them w Healthcare

The wheels are coming off and the hypocrisy of the leftist media is being exposed.
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I want the law to go. Lets say we get a GOP majority in Congress and they vote to repeal. Can obama just veto their repeal?
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Old 05-20-2013, 10:26 AM
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I want the law to go. Lets say we get a GOP majority in Congress and they vote to repeal. Can obama just veto their repeal?
Yes, at which time they would need two-thirds of the votes from House and Senate to override the veto. It's rare, and I doubt it would work. Only chance is for a Republican President and Republicans in control of Congress in 2016. Not sure that will happen.
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