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Old 05-15-2013, 08:14 PM
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Did it ever occur to you that those they fled from were not Christians per the Bible? Relgionists they were, not Christians by definition.
Did it ever occur to you that maybe the Muslims who are mostly victims of terrorist attacks comprise the exception and not the rule and despise the "jihadis" more than you do?
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Old 05-15-2013, 08:18 PM
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Did it ever occur to you that maybe the Muslims who are mostly victims of terrorist attacks comprise the exception and not the rule and despise the "jihadis" more than you do?
Are you sitting down? What I'm about to say might shock you....

I TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOU.

But I must add this...

Not all Muslims are terrorists, but almost all terrorists are Muslims. And the silence coming from the moderate Muslim world is deafening when it comes to these attacks.
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Old 05-15-2013, 08:31 PM
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Are you sitting down? What I'm about to say might shock you....

I TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOU.

But I must add this...

Not all Muslims are terrorists, but almost all terrorists are Muslims. And the silence coming from the moderate Muslim world is deafening when it comes to these attacks.
The media silence sure is deafening and why? Muslims have the same feelings for extremists that Westerners do but why is there an impression that Muslims tolerate this violence in their own communities:

Saudi Arabia is said to be terrorist-tolerant and a supporter of terrorism. Yet Muslim Saudi police and military routinely give their lives fighting it.

Are these the actions of a tolerant community?

29 January One unnamed gunman captured and five police officers killed in a shootout in the Al-Nassim District of Riyadh.

12 April A police officer and one militant are killed in a shootout in Riyadh. Rakan ibn Moshen Al-Seikhan and Nasser ibn Rashid Al-Rashid are wounded and escaped. Both are reported dead on 4 July.

13 April Four police officers are killed in two attacks by militants. Several car bombs are found and defused.

22 April Three unnamed militants are killed by police in Jeddah in an incident in the Al-Fayha district.

1 May (See: Black Saturday (2004)) Seven people (two US citizens, two Britons, an Australian, a Canadian, and a Saudi) are killed in a rampage at the premises of a petroleum company in Yanbu by three brothers. All the attackers, dressed in military uniforms, are killed.

18 June US citizen Paul Johnson is beheaded in Riyadh. His body is found some time later. A few hours later security services kill five militants (Abdul Aziz Al-Muqrin, Turki Al-Muteri, Ibahim Al-Durayhim and two others). A dozen are reported captured.

1 July Abdullah ibn Ahmed Al-Rashoud is killed in shootout east of the capital. Bandar Al-Dakheel escapes. Two policemen (Bandar Al-Qahtani and Humoud Abdullah Al-Harbi) are killed.

4 July The bodies of Moshen Al-Seikhan and Nasser ibn Rashid Al-Rashid are discovered. One had had his leg crudely amputated. Both seem to have been wounded in fights with the security services and died later.

20 July Shootout in Riyadh. Eisa ibn Saad Al-Awshan (number 13 on the list of the 26 most-wanted militants) is killed. Saleh al-Oufi (#4), the head of Al Qaeda in the kingdom escapes from the raid on the compound where he had been living with his extended family.

4 November Unnamed ‘deviant’ is arrested in a shoot-out at an Internet café in Buraidah, Qasim region. Two policemen are injured.

9 November Shootout in Jeddah. On Al-Amal Al-Saleh Street, police capture four unnamed militants and seize eight AKs and hundreds of locally-made bombs. No deaths are reported.

10 November Government announces the interception of 44,000 rounds of ammunition being smuggled in from Yemen. One Saudi waiting for the shipment is arrested.

13 November Five unnamed militants arrested in Riyadh and Zulfi. A number of machine guns and other weapons are captured. Nobody is hurt in the gunfight.

17 November A police officer (Private Fahd Al-Olayan) is killed and eight are injured in a shootout in Unayzah, Qassim. Five persons of interest are detained. Computers, pipe bombs and SR38,000 are seized.

6 December Five employees are killed (a Yemeni, a Sudanese, a Filipino, a Pakistani and a Sri Lankan) as five militants invade the US Consulate in Jeddah. No US citizens are killed.

29 December Two suicide car bombs explode in Riyadh. One outside the Interior Ministry Complex, the other near the Special Emergency Force training center. A passerby is killed and some people are wounded. In a resulting gun battle, seven suspected militants are killed. Two (Sultan Al-Otabi and Faisal Al-Dakheel) were on the Kingdom’s list of 26 Most Wanted.

13 March Saudi security forces in Jeddah conduct an early-morning raid that kills one (Saed al-Youbi) labeled as a terrorist. One civilian was also killed; five policemen were wounded. Three other suspects were arrested. One was thought to be Ibrahim al-Youbi.

3 April through 5 April Saudi security forces launch the major Ar Rass raids against a three-house compound, 320 kilometers south of the capital. Fifteen terrorists, including Saleh Al-Aufi, reportedly the Al-Qaeda leader for Saudi Arabia were killed along with Talib Saud Al-Talib, also on the list of the 26 most-wanted persons. The gunfight lasted for most of two days and included the use of rocket-propelled grenades, machine guns and other heavy weapons. Students at a nearby girl’s school were in danger from the fire and were evacuated by police who broke down the rear wall to their building.[9]

7 April Using information from the previous raid, security services killed Abdul Rahman Al-Yaziji, number four on the most-wanted list in a firefight in the Southern Industrial District of Riyadh. The newspapers report that only three men on the list of the 26 most-wanted are still at liberty. They are Saleh Al-Aufi, Talib Al-Talib and Abdullah al-Rashoud.

22 April A group of four insurgents dressed as women attempt to bluff their way past a security checkpoint near the holy city of Makkah. Women are forbidden to drive in Saudi Arabia. The police gave chase as the group fled in their car. They were surrounded in a hilly area near Umm Al-Joud southeast of the city. Two militants and two security officers were killed in the resulting shootout, an unknown number were wounded. The battle took place as the Western Region of Saudi Arabia was conducting its first-ever elections for local government councils.

9 May Abdul Aziz ibn Rasheed Al-Inazi is arrested after a shoot-out in Riyadh. His is described in the press as a leader of the Religious Committee of the insurgency.


16 June Security services announce the arrest in Riyadh of five Chadians who were described as 'members of a deviant group.' The detainees, whose names were not given confessed to the murder of Laurent Barbot in September 2004 as well as a number of armed robberies.

19 June Lt Colonel Mubarak Al-Sawat, a senior police commander in Makkah, was killed outside his home as he got in his car on his way to work. Newspapers report the killing may have been a botched kidnapping attempt.

21 June The killers of Lt Colonel Mubarak Al-Sawat are killed by security forces after a long fire-fight on the Old Makkah Road in the Holy City. Mansour Al-Thubaity and Kamal Foudah, both Saudi nationals, were fired on while fleeing police in a car, took another car and finally were killed while hiding in a building in a residential area. Three policemen were injured, one of them seriously.

24 June An internet site linked to Al-Qaeda in Iraq reports that Abdullah al-Rashoud, one of the few persons on the list of 26 Saudis most wanted has been killed by a US bomb. If true, this would leave only two persons ( Saleh Al-Aufi, the alleged leader of Al-Qaeda in Saudi Arabia, and Taleb Al-Taleb) on that list unaccounted for.

29 June The security services issues two new lists of wanted persons. List A includes 15 names of persons suspected of terrorist affiliations and who are thought to be in the Kingdom. List B is of 21 names of persons suspected of terrorist affiliation, who are thought to be outside the Kingdom. List A


24 February Saudi security forces have thwarted an attempted suicide attack at an oil processing facility in eastern Saudi Arabia, Saudi security sources told CNN. Two pick-up trucks carrying two would-be bombers tried to enter the side gate to the Abqaiq plant in the Eastern Province, the largest oil processing facilities in the world (more than 60% of Saudi production), but the attackers detonated their explosives after security guards fired on them, according to statements from Saudi's interior and oil ministries. According to Saudi sources, the plant was not damaged and only minor damage to one small (1.5 inch) pipeline was caused by splinters, along with serious injuries among security guards and minor injuries among a few Aramco plant workers.

The dead suspects were later named as Muhammed Al-Gaith and Abdullah Al-Tuwaijri. Two members of the security forces were also killed in the fight.

27 February In a series of predawn raids sparked by the attack on Abqaiq, Saudi security forces killed five unnamed militants (in Al-Yarmouk) and captured another (in Al-Rawabi). In addition, three people were killed by the police at a vehicle checkpoint. Initial reports indicate that the checkpoint incident was a mistake, as those killed were Filipino guest workers.

26 October Security services announce the arrest of 44 Saudi nationals in Riyadh, Al-Qassim and Hail.

2 December Security services announce the arrest of 136 Al-Qaeda suspects, including 115 Saudi nationals. Calling the arrests "preemptive," they claim that at least one cell of militants were on the verge of making a suicide attack in the Kingdom.
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Old 05-15-2013, 08:35 PM
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Only a self deluded fool would make such a statement. Real Christians do not committ random acts of violence. Even the violent acts committed by pseudo-Christians pale in comparison and number to the violent acts committed by those who embrace your religion.
It is self-deluded indeed to sit at a computer with your views protected by those who were so afraid of church rule that they prohibited it for you for all time.

You could be in a position to be executed for even the smallest thing, like for instance believing the world is round and circles the sun were it not for our founding fathers.

Muslims do not and have never executed people who believe the world is not flat like the church has. Just a tiny example of 2000 years of blood-soaked church rule and the last 100 years or so (in the case of Ireland less than 30 years) do not wipe the previous 2000 years off the pages of history.

We won't get into Hitler's or the KKK's "religious white" beliefs which are recent examples resulting in the extermination of millions. The 9500 or so killed worldwide in 35 years by Islamist extremists pales compared to rule under the christian Klan during the time of the civil rights movement.

The apostolic church was still segregated in the late 80's and early 90's. It mostly still is.

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Old 05-15-2013, 09:39 PM
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It is self-deluded indeed to sit at a computer with your views protected by those who were so afraid of church rule that they prohibited it for you for all time.

You could be in a position to be executed for even the smallest thing, like for instance believing the world is round and circles the sun were it not for our founding fathers.

Muslims do not and have never executed people who believe the world is not flat like the church has. Just a tiny example of 2000 years of blood-soaked church rule and the last 100 years or so (in the case of Ireland less than 30 years) do not wipe the previous 2000 years off the pages of history.

We won't get into Hitler's or the KKK's "religious white" beliefs which are recent examples resulting in the extermination of millions. The 9500 or so killed worldwide in 35 years by Islamist extremists pales compared to rule under the christian Klan during the time of the civil rights movement.

The apostolic church was still segregated in the late 80's and early 90's. It mostly still is.
Address the muslim against muslim violence if you would.

"Charred human remains were placed in a bag on a stretcher at the site of one of the bombings in Kirkuk. An emergency worker broke down in tears nearby, squatting in the rubble-strewn street.

At the scene of another blast, emergency workers hosed down a mangled car with burned bodies, including what appeared to be the blackened face of a child, visible inside."

http://english.alarabiya.net/en/News...4-people-.html

Muslim against muslim violence against men, women and children is common TODAY....but you won't address it. Why is Islam so violent, even within it's own religion?

No, you're not going to actually discuss why Islam is the most violent religion on the face of the earth TODAY. And you'll not address the fact that when RELIGIOUS violence is found, killing and maiming in the name of God, Islam is almost always involved.

I'm happy to post these facts and watch the dishonest behavior of a muslim evade them. You're a perfect example of Islam's dishonesty.
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Old 05-16-2013, 05:15 AM
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Address the muslim against muslim violence if you would.

"Charred human remains were placed in a bag on a stretcher at the site of one of the bombings in Kirkuk. An emergency worker broke down in tears nearby, squatting in the rubble-strewn street.

At the scene of another blast, emergency workers hosed down a mangled car with burned bodies, including what appeared to be the blackened face of a child, visible inside."

http://english.alarabiya.net/en/News...4-people-.html

Muslim against muslim violence against men, women and children is common TODAY....but you won't address it. Why is Islam so violent, even within it's own religion?

No, you're not going to actually discuss why Islam is the most violent religion on the face of the earth TODAY. And you'll not address the fact that when RELIGIOUS violence is found, killing and maiming in the name of God, Islam is almost always involved.

I'm happy to post these facts and watch the dishonest behavior of a muslim evade them. You're a perfect example of Islam's dishonesty.
I did not deny these things and thanks for bringing up Iraq. The violent death rate in peaked in 2006 at the height of the war at 56.4 per 100000. This is terrible however many US cities had higher violent death rates that same year - notably New Orleans at a notable 67.5

Muslims under invasion during full scale WAR have lower violent death rates than major US cities at peace LOL
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