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06-25-2012, 02:12 PM
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Re: This Week's Encounters with Legalism
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Originally Posted by jediwill83
Lacey I don't think its a situation of he doesn't want to help her...I think its a situation of that he knows she would reject it.
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So our executing the mandates of Scripture of honoring our parents lessens when they don't deserve or won't receive it? The mandate to bless those that curse us changes?????
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06-25-2012, 02:54 PM
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Re: This Week's Encounters with Legalism
Even Scripture instructs us not to throw
pearls to swine. Or, to answer your question,
"you bet." You can "bless" someone in prayer from
a thousand miles away. I love my dad, for instance,
but would not go near him, for (I suspect) the same reason.
Same reason no one else will go around him. You want his #?
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06-25-2012, 02:57 PM
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Re: This Week's Encounters with Legalism
Speaking of "Encounters With Legalism" does anybody know what my favorite "encounter with legalism" is?
Lunch with Elder Epley!!!
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"I think some people love spiritual bondage just the way some people love physical bondage. It makes them feel secure. In the end though it is not healthy for the one who is lost over it or the one who is lives under the oppression even if by their own choice"
Titus2woman on AFF
"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.
"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"
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06-25-2012, 02:59 PM
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Re: This Week's Encounters with Legalism
I "honor" him by forgiving him,
and not telling him the truth anymore.
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06-25-2012, 03:03 PM
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Re: This Week's Encounters with Legalism
Jesus blew off his mother when she tried to hold an impromtu family reunion. He told her to get lost.
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I know I'll get crucified for this... but I just can't see Jesus reacting the same way as you did.... and I certainly can't see him going on a very public internet forum to bad mouth someone needing a touch from him as bad as your mom does.... I would imagine his heart broken and burdened over the interaction.... reacting soft to harshness... but this post just exudes pride and disrespect for your mom... no matter what she does, says or how she acts.
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A religious spirit allows people to tolerate hatred and anger under the guise of passion and holiness. Bill Johnson
Legalism has no pity on people. Legalism makes my opinion your burden, makes opinion your boundary, makes my opinion your obligation-Lucado
Some get spiritual because they see the light. Others because they feel the heat.Ray Wylie Hubbard
Definition of legalism- Damned if you do. Damned if you don't. TV
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06-25-2012, 03:05 PM
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Re: This Week's Encounters with Legalism
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Like others I also found the part about not having contact with the mom over "legalism" strange but I am giving televsion one alpha the benefit of the doubt and will assume there is more to the dynamic than we know.
I do detect a lot of undercurrent here. Particuarly in Television's angst over mom not accepting his prayers. While I agree she is wrong for not wanting them I would never be pushy about praying for someone. It seemed to be very important to TV that she let him or want him to do this. In a normal relationship I could see that but in this case where they are estranged by his own account I don't get it.
I couldnt' help but wonder if televisiononealpha didn't have a fantasy of him praying for mom, her feeling a supernatural touch from God, and that causing her to change her mind about his status with God.
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You know, I was thinking about this and the fact is that even if TV's mom didn't want his prayers, that doesn't need to keep him from praying for her. I've prayed for alot more people when I was NOT in the hospital room with them than I have when I WAS in the room with them. He is praying to God - NOT to his mom. So if the fact that his mom rejects his prayers bothers him, he should add that to what he is praying regarding her. If he wants his mom's heart to be softened and opened to him, then ask God to soften her heart and to help her to understand where he is today in his walk with the Lord and to be accepting of it. The original post here just looked to me to make Mom look like the bad guy and to elevate himself. I understand he's hurt, so I am trying to be as kind as possible. I don't want to make TV feel any more hurt than he already does. I just want him to consider this from his mom's point of view in hopes that when he sees her side, maybe that can begin the healing process. A Mom is a very precious gift to lose - at least for some of us.
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06-25-2012, 03:06 PM
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Re: This Week's Encounters with Legalism
and by the way, if God chooses to heal his mom - the glory needs to go to GOD - NOT to him because God answered his prayers.
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06-25-2012, 03:07 PM
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Re: This Week's Encounters with Legalism
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Jesus blew off his mother when she tried to hold an impromtu family reunion. He told her to get lost.
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I really hope you are jesting and you didn't mean this the way it comes across. If so how do you dismiss the scriptures about honoring your parents?
Do you honestly think God's attitude is that it is ok to "blow your mother off" based on Jesus' dealings with his mother in that scripture? Still praying you wrote this in jest. Otherwise you are a ........er...I can't say it on this forum or I would have to ban myself for name calling.
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"I think some people love spiritual bondage just the way some people love physical bondage. It makes them feel secure. In the end though it is not healthy for the one who is lost over it or the one who is lives under the oppression even if by their own choice"
Titus2woman on AFF
"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.
"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"
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06-25-2012, 03:13 PM
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Re: This Week's Encounters with Legalism
Moms get out of line, too, and God does not need TV to bless her.
A harsh truth is that we get what we deserve. She's an adult, she could have called him
instead of sis--you know why she didn't? I know why she didn't.
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06-25-2012, 03:17 PM
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Re: This Week's Encounters with Legalism
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Originally Posted by bbyrd009
Moms get out of line, too, and God does not need TV to bless her.
A harsh truth is that we get what we deserve. She's an adult, she could have called him
instead of sis--you know why she didn't? I know why she didn't.
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You do? Are you his mom?
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If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.
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He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the LORD require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God? Micah 6:8 KJV
Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is. 1 John 3:2 KJV
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