Rom 10
1 Brethren, my heart's desire and prayer to God for Israel is, that they might be saved.
2 For I bear them record that they have a zeal of God, but not according to knowledge.
3 For they being ignorant of God's righteousness, and going about to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God.
4 For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.
I believe that should answer your question...(btw, this scripture also APPLIES to every religion outside of those who have put complete faith in the atoning death and resurrection of Jesus Christ.)
...and for the general topic in the thread. Here goes:
John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
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...Testifying both to the Jews, and also to the Greeks, repentance toward God, and faith toward our Lord Jesus Christ...(Acts 20:21)
Rom 10
1 Brethren, my heart's desire and prayer to God for Israel is, that they might be saved.
2 For I bear them record that they have a zeal of God, but not according to knowledge.
3 For they being ignorant of God's righteousness, and going about to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God.
4 For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.
I believe that should answer your question...(btw, this scripture also APPLIES to every religion outside of those who have put complete faith in the atoning death and resurrection of Jesus Christ.)
...and for the general topic in the thread. Here goes:
John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
So, yes it's the same God, but they're getting it wrong?
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Hebrews 13:23 Know ye that our brother Timothy is set at liberty
Depends on whether they come to Christ. 4 For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth
__________________ "It is inhumane, in my opinion, to force people who have a genuine medical need for coffee to wait in line behind people who apparently view it as some kind of recreational activity." Dave Barry 2005
I am a firm believer in the Old Paths
Articles on such subjects as "The New Birth," will be accepted, whether they teach that the new birth takes place before baptism in water and Spirit, or that the new birth consists of baptism of water and Spirit. - THE PENTECOSTAL HERALD Dec. 1945
"It is doubtful if any Trinitarian Pentecostals have ever professed to believe in three gods, and Oneness Pentecostals should not claim that they do." - Daniel Segraves
Depends on whether they come to Christ. 4 For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth
Huh? You mean if a Jew worships God in the Jewish way, not believing that the Old Testament has been replaced, he is no longer actually worshiping God? And if he comes to Christ, then, voila? He is suddenly worshiping the real God? And the Jews B.C. were worshiping the real God, but when Christ died and was raised, and they didn't change their practices, suddenly they weren't worshiping God anymore?
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Hebrews 13:23 Know ye that our brother Timothy is set at liberty
Huh? You mean if a Jew worships God in the Jewish way, not believing that the Old Testament has been replaced, he is no longer actually worshiping God? And if he comes to Christ, then, voila? He is suddenly worshiping the real God? And the Jews B.C. were worshiping the real God, but when Christ died and was raised, and they didn't change their practices, suddenly they weren't worshiping God anymore?
Great questions Timmy....
Here's the issue Timmy. God combined His own person and divinity with humanity in the man Jesus Christ. Therefore, Jesus IS the God of Judaism incarnate. Now, the religious system known as Judaism rejected Jesus, therefore they rejected their God. The Jewish traditions mark Jesus has a false prophet, a bastard child, and even accuses him of sorcery. So, I think it's best explained that the Jews are worshipping God as He was, not as He is as revealed in Jesus.
When Islam denies that Jesus is God incarnate, they too become guilty of this very same sin. The Muslim worships Jesus as Mohammed (PBUH) believed in him... not as Jesus described Himself. Both are beautiful religions. Both have much cultural significance. Both offer an ethical way of living. However, as far as personally "knowing" God... both fall flat when they reject the inique claims of Jesus and deny that He is God incarnate.
The only way one can work around this is by claiming one of the following three points of view:
-That Jesus indeed claimed what is written in Scripture and was a delusional madman.
-That Jesus didn't claim what is written in Scripture and the Bible cannot be trusted. He was just a good teacher and a revolutionary rabbi.
-That Jesus indeed claimed what is written in Scripture and that He spoke truth and is God incarnate.
Huh? You mean if a Jew worships God in the Jewish way, not believing that the Old Testament has been replaced, he is no longer actually worshiping God? And if he comes to Christ, then, voila? He is suddenly worshiping the real God? And the Jews B.C. were worshiping the real God, but when Christ died and was raised, and they didn't change their practices, suddenly they weren't worshiping God anymore?
If their "worship" includes rejecting Christ - even killing him as a false prophet then how possibly could they be "worshiping" Christ? The "voila!" moment is that they repented of rejection and embraced Jesus.
So if, in their worship they come to Christ and accept Him as God, that does somewhat speak to their original intent and relationship - in so much as it thrust them toward Christ.
__________________ "It is inhumane, in my opinion, to force people who have a genuine medical need for coffee to wait in line behind people who apparently view it as some kind of recreational activity." Dave Barry 2005
I am a firm believer in the Old Paths
Articles on such subjects as "The New Birth," will be accepted, whether they teach that the new birth takes place before baptism in water and Spirit, or that the new birth consists of baptism of water and Spirit. - THE PENTECOSTAL HERALD Dec. 1945
"It is doubtful if any Trinitarian Pentecostals have ever professed to believe in three gods, and Oneness Pentecostals should not claim that they do." - Daniel Segraves
P S When I was dead in my trespasses I too "worshiped" other god. It is only when I came into Christ that could worship Him in Truth.
__________________ "It is inhumane, in my opinion, to force people who have a genuine medical need for coffee to wait in line behind people who apparently view it as some kind of recreational activity." Dave Barry 2005
I am a firm believer in the Old Paths
Articles on such subjects as "The New Birth," will be accepted, whether they teach that the new birth takes place before baptism in water and Spirit, or that the new birth consists of baptism of water and Spirit. - THE PENTECOSTAL HERALD Dec. 1945
"It is doubtful if any Trinitarian Pentecostals have ever professed to believe in three gods, and Oneness Pentecostals should not claim that they do." - Daniel Segraves
The only way one can work around this is by claiming one of the following three points of view:
Hmm, I have a 4th you might consider:
That Christ has many names that you are unaware of,
and many there are who will say "Lord, Lord" on that day,
to be told "I never knew you."
Now, you can pretend to have a corner on Christ,
there in your mortgaged house, and your mortgaged church,
and maybe you do actually give Him a nod, now and then,
in between the interminable voting, and sessions at the gun range--
Or you can take it as a sign that when you are asked about the matter,
your replies aren't real-life parables, but are merely rote; that nice-sounding
Scripture they taught you, and your father before you, in Sunday school.
See that there are more ways than one to deny Christ, at least,
and surely, if you truly are a seeker, that Muslims don't need
any help with their eye-splinters.
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