I dunno, but it seems like some Christians have wondered the same thing.
Or believes they are worshiping the same God.
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Originally Posted by bbyrd009
The Qur'an makes frequent ref to Scripture, and as long as you do not "join other gods with..." God, would include you as a believer. I'm about 2/3 of the way through it, and have found no substantial inconsistencies with the Bible and the Qur'an; a couple minor cultural ones.
My understanding is that the Qur'an is based on the Pentateuch,
and I've found no reason to say otherwise.
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Ok, well my God is God, and Muslims I know seem to have a good conception of Christ. Better than most Christians, imo; they seem more apt to practice Christ, rather than just preach Him.
Ok, well my God is God, and Muslims I know seem to have a good conception of Christ. Better than most Christians, imo; they seem more apt to practice Christ, rather than just preach Him.
Huh? How possibly? Our primary concept of Christ is that He is God and deserves praise and honor to that end. Do you really mean to say Muslim teaching has a better comprehension of this than the Christian church?
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Huh? How possibly? Our primary concept of Christ is that He is God and deserves praise and honor to that end. Do you really mean to say Muslim teaching has a better comprehension of this than the Christian church?
It is the diff in talking about it v doing it, mainly; but my concept of Christ is that He is my High Priest, deserving of honor, yes--but when I follow what He, rather than Peter, says, I am instructed to worship God, from His lips.
You talk eloquently about praise and honor to Christ,
and surely speak for many, who are completely invested
in what I can only call a satanic system of slavery;
we are witnessing the fruit of this right now.
I can sure say that, in all of these "poor Muslim" countries,
at least the ones I've been to, I did not witness the social
deprivation common in the US.
But I am not qualified to speak about an individual's
belief system, except to say that yes, from my pov,
I am reluctantly more impressed with their conception of Christ.
And as for "Christian church;" which one?
Most of them are still stuck at "Christ died" theologically,
and present Christ as a virtual icon, imo.
The disconnect is obvious.
In my opinion, there is only one true God and He has revealed Himself in Jesus Christ. Others may be reaching out to Him or trying to serve Him or to gain His favor but are doing it to the best of their ability based on their limited understanding.
In Acts chapter 17, the Apostle Paul was in Athens for a period of time (around August AD 51 for maybe 3-4 weeks). While there his spirit was stirred to see the people wholly given to idolatry. After disputing in the market place he was brought to Mars Hill to be examined for his teaching. He had been preaching about "Iesous and anastasia (Jesus and the resurrection) which some thought might be a new couple of gods. He told them about seeing an altar to the "unknown god"(agnosto theos). He declared, "Whom therefore ye ignorantly worship, Him declare I unto you."
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In my opinion, there is only one true God who revealed Himself to humankind as The Most High, Elohim, and then by His covenant name of YHWH. Later He came in the person of His Son but some did not accept that later revelation. He was in the world and the world was made by Him but the world did not know Him. He came unto His own people but His own people did not recognize Him and accept Him. Therefore, even though they do not realize that Jesus Christ is the one true God --the YHWH covenant God of their fathers-- they are still worshiping and serving Him but not in His latest revelation. They are not "saved" or "born again" but will be judged in the second resurrection by how well they walked in what light they had. Some people call that "the Light Doctrine."
No, theologically, the Christian church as a whole accepts the absolute divinity of Christ while Muslims reject the same. You may very well be on target on some of the rest, I would not even argue with you about. It's a moot point.
It is the diff in talking about it v doing it, mainly; but my concept of Christ is that He is my High Priest, deserving of honor, yes--but when I follow what He, rather than Peter, says, I am instructed to worship God, from His lips.
You talk eloquently about praise and honor to Christ,
and surely speak for many, who are completely invested
in what I can only call a satanic system of slavery;
we are witnessing the fruit of this right now.
I can sure say that, in all of these "poor Muslim" countries,
at least the ones I've been to, I did not witness the social
deprivation common in the US.
But I am not qualified to speak about an individual's
belief system, except to say that yes, from my pov,
I am reluctantly more impressed with their conception of Christ.
And as for "Christian church;" which one?
Most of them are still stuck at "Christ died" theologically,
and present Christ as a virtual icon, imo.
The disconnect is obvious.
__________________ "It is inhumane, in my opinion, to force people who have a genuine medical need for coffee to wait in line behind people who apparently view it as some kind of recreational activity." Dave Barry 2005
I am a firm believer in the Old Paths
Articles on such subjects as "The New Birth," will be accepted, whether they teach that the new birth takes place before baptism in water and Spirit, or that the new birth consists of baptism of water and Spirit. - THE PENTECOSTAL HERALD Dec. 1945
"It is doubtful if any Trinitarian Pentecostals have ever professed to believe in three gods, and Oneness Pentecostals should not claim that they do." - Daniel Segraves
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