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johnny44 · #61 08-20-2011, 06:04 PM

Epi Center Long Beach,CA

bishoph · #62 08-21-2011, 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by CC1

Nope. When the Word Wide Wrestling Pentecostal Fellowship came into being the UPCI specifically made a rule that a licensed minister cannot be a member of two orgs that ordain, etc.

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Originally Posted by aegsm76

This is correct, the national org passed the rule, but leaves it up to the district to enforce.
Some districts do not enforce it, therefore you have some that I know that have both.

Just a point of clarification.......the UPCI has had a rule for many many years that one CANNOT be a member in two credential issuing organizations. That is one reason the WPF said they would not issue any license. (which they still do not, (with the exception of in foreign countries where a minister is not recognized without a "national" affiliation) it's up to the local church to license ministers.) However the UPCI General Board and their attorneys felt that the WPF still met the definition of an organization and officially ruled that no UPCI minister could hold dual membership; with the individual districts to enforce (or not) as they saw fit.

This same rule was used by the UPCI at the formation of the AWCF to stop ministers from joining and fellowshipping. The UPCI threatened to bring formal charges against any minister who joined etc.

ThePastorsCoach · #63 08-21-2011, 07:38 PM

Promiseland Church (formerly Bible Truth Church) Pastor P.T. McClure in Melbourne,FL

Fresh Vision Church/Pastor Derek Purser in Smyrna, TN

Miracle Faith Missions International/Bishop W. Wayne Pugh in Metro Atlanta/Lawrenceville, GA

Triumph Church/Bishop Randy & Renee Clark in Nederland, TX

Triumph Church of Vicksburg,MS/ Pastor Mike Fields

ThePastorsCoach · #64 08-21-2011, 08:00 PM

I do know that the UPC at one time did "require" ALL Home Missions Churches to have United Pentecostal Church on the sign somewhere. I refused to have it on any of the churches I planted and the DS & HM Director did say that I had to do it, but I never did. It always was - what you could get away with in the UPC. The big dogs made the rules and expected everyone else but themselves to live by them. Well, most of them lived by them until they got to the City Limits sign and were headed out of town! Oh, and this is not a bitter rant against the UPC. There are some good people in the UPC and God bless them!

Amanah · #65 08-22-2011, 05:05 AM

So does the UPCI still have a good sized membership? or is the organization becoming obsolete?

Hoovie · #66 08-22-2011, 05:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Amanah

So does the UPCI still have a good sized membership? or is the organization becoming obsolete?

Still growing. Not all Evangelical or Protestants can say that.

Falla39 · #67 08-22-2011, 05:45 AM

Are many or all of the organizations becoming obsolete. Scaffolding is only needed to
support the construction until the building is strong enough to stand on it's own.

Scaffolding is a temporary structure used to support people and material in the construction or repair of buildings and other large structures. ...

Just a thought!

Falla39

Falla39 · #68 08-22-2011, 06:04 AM

The True Church, built by the LORD JESUS CHRIST, will still be standing when all else
comes down. Only those things which cannot be shaken will remain. The gates of hell
will not prevail against the Church of THE LIVING GOD.

Ephesians 2:18-22

King James Version (KJV)

18 For through him we both have access by one Spirit unto the Father.

19 Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellowcitizens with the saints, and of the household of God;

20 And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone;

21 In whom all the building fitly framed together groweth unto an holy temple in the Lord:

22 In whom ye also are builded together for an habitation of God through the Spirit.

ThePastorsCoach · #69 08-22-2011, 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Hoovie

Still growing. Not all Evangelical or Protestants can say that.

Hey Hoovie, Where is it growing? I do not know of ONE church in Georgia that is as big today as it was 10 years ago. It may be growing overseas - but I really do not think it is growing here in the USA and if it is -WHERE?

aegsm76 · #70 08-22-2011, 09:05 AM

Atlanta West UPC is considerably larger than it was 10 years ago.