Osama Has Won!

[canam]

I believe WII WII just got owned, by accerak and MB has even posted yet.

[Sam]

Originally Posted by UnTraditional

Walks_in_Islam, how can you serve a demon... I mean a god whose primary prophet was a pedophile, whose law demands you kill and enslave infidels, and whose beliefs have murdered and raped Christians throughout the world, with the blessings of most imams of that religion? Allah is nothing more than a Babylonian moon god, one among over 360 others that the false prophet mohammed chose to be the deity of his religion, and this is a proven historical fact.

First, let me say that I am a Christian. I have been since I invited Jesus Christ into my heart on March 28, 1955. I believe there is only one true God and His name is Jesus.

But,

Some of the stuff you've said about Mohammed and Islam has also been said about Christianity. Some believe and teach that YHWH was one of many gods who became elevated by Jews to be the supreme God. And YHWH told Israel to purge out all the people groups living in that land and to take it over. Also, look at the bloody history of the Christian Church with the Crusades, the inquisition, the KKK, and Hitler. Then look around at the attitude and actions of "Christians" as they excommunicate one another, fellowship along doctrinal and organizational lines, and gossip, lie, and destroy one another with their tongues.

[acerrak]

Originally Posted by Sam

First, let me say that I am a Christian. I have been since I invited Jesus Christ into my heart on March 28, 1955. I believe there is only one true God and His name is Jesus.

But,

Some of the stuff you've said about Mohammed and Islam has also been said about Christianity. Some believe and teach that YHWH was one of many gods who became elevated by Jews to be the supreme God. And YHWH told Israel to purge out all the people groups living in that land and to take it over. Also, look at the bloody history of the Christian Church with the Crusades, the inquisition, the KKK, and Hitler. Then look around at the attitude and actions of "Christians" as they excommunicate one another, fellowship along doctrinal and organizational lines, and gossip, lie, and destroy one another with their tongues.

yep maybe if the jews would have completly done what God told them todo, when they got into the promise land, we might not had any of it, who knows.

surely your not questioning the action of the one true living God versus a idol?

[Sam]

Originally Posted by acerrak

yep maybe if the jews would have completly done what God told them todo, when they got into the promise land, we might not had any of it, who knows.

surely your not questioning the action of the one true living God versus a idol?

I do not believe the Jewish belief in YHWH as the one true God came by evolution. I believe He revealed Himself to men over the years.

I believe the Bible is God's Word.

I believe YHWH did order the extermination of the inhabitants of Canaan.

[Walks_in_islam]

As I pointed out, the words of Jesus as HE prayed were written down. Jesus prayed to Eli. If Jesus used a "generic name" when he addressed his God and I use the same "generic name" when I address the same God then the "generic name" is good enough for me. Add this to the growing list of things that Jesus did and taught you to do but somehow are not good enough for you.

There are actually (7) names for God from the ancient Hebrew writings. You picked (1) of the (7) probably because it has the least resemblence in sound to the name either Jesus or Muslims use. You know, when I think of it, that sounds a bit silly.

1.Eloah
2.Elohim
3.Adonai
4.Ehyeh-Asher-Ehyeh
5.YHWH
6.El Shaddai
7.Tzevaot


As to the name Jesus - names do not change. Sound does not "appear" and "reappear". Tongues and mouths could say "yeshua" back then and tongues and mouths can say "yeshua" today. Amazing huh? Jesus was not greek. He had a name. What sounds silly are the long lines of justification it takes to explain how the name got changed.

You know nothing about my book. You are correct in one thing - my book and your book have no dicrepencies between them until after Jesus was taken back to paradise.

To your note about false prophets: I have seen many false prophets speak. They prepare long summaries of how close the end of time is and long analysis of how the commies are the kingdom of the antichrist and the common market is the kingdom of the antichrist and the catholics are the kingdom of the antichrist and "scare people to jesus" with it while pocketing much profit from it. Also noted is that you choose to follow these false prophets like sheep even when their "prophecies" come to nothing.

It it all the same to you I will continue to pray and fast and give the way I am supposed to and leave the lies and false prophecies to your leaders.

Originally Posted by acerrak

your lack of study shows. allah is just a generic term for the word God. it is not a name. God in the Old testament, the True God left us with a name, Somthing to destinquish himself. YHWH or Yahweh.
el or elohim is both generic terms for the word God, there not names, just as the word God isnt a name.

it is true that some arabs use allah, but they know the Name of there God
muslims dont, muslims are left with a generic name.

thats what happends when a radical group comes around in 652 a.d and plagerizes off the bible and makes there own. just silly.

as for the Name Yeshua, yehoshua,Yesus, Iseous, Jesus. if you have never done a study on name of Jesus dont talk. it will really make you look dumb.

You will not find Yeshua in the greek it is Iseous, which is the greek translation of yeshua or yesus. during the time when there was no letter (J) the Letter I was used. When the (j) came into play it did not have (g) SOUND it was a (ya) or a Jya) sound. so they tried to keep the sound of Yesus/iseous eventually when the english evolved the (j) picked up a (G) sound thus the pronunciation of Gsus, instead of the ya sound.

really man, islam has no god its a fake made up with mans hands as a idol and fashioned in the mind of men. islam god is not the god of Jesus.

your silly little book came over 600 years after the hard manuscripts had already been written for christianity , and that isnt counting the hebrew ones that had been around much longer.

if this was the case allah was the god of the old testament, which we know he isnt cause he is (fake) the jews today would still be calling him allah. lol
But they dont..


im sorry dude, i really am, come out of that pagan relegion. the only roots it ever had in christianity was plagerized by some fake demon possesed so called prophet

[Walks_in_islam]

I am quite sure that Jesus says that the measures you mete in judgement will be measured back to you. I am comfortable in thinking that makes a lot more sense than after thousands of years of outlining that it is a grevious sin to put yourself in God's place suddenly you are given rights to judge others now today. Just thinkin'.

Originally Posted by GISG

Jesus says we're to judge with righteous judgment. If, after having recieved the baptisim of the Holy Ghost I cannot judge between your god and mine, there is something wrong. And it can never be made right with the lie you have believed and now worship.

So, note all you want, my God is able to keep that which has been committed unto Him....

[Walks_in_islam]

I am quite sure that in your bible you are told that everyone will stand at the end and be judged according to your works.

In your bible EL-AH is one of the (7) terms used that Jesus selected to pray to.

Originally Posted by coadie

The saints shall judge the world

In my bible

Allah is a false depiction of God.

Allah offers no way to have rem,ission of sins but substitutes a works salvation.

Prophet Mohamad was a bad to the bones dude. We know he is not from Jehovah.

[Walks_in_islam]

"yip yip yip" you are back.

Originally Posted by canam

It must be the same time everywhere in the world. I cannot fathom the concept of time zones so I say the earth is flat. If you say otherwise you will be put to death. I cannot grasp the concept that maybe if someone is 10 time zones away and it is daytime here it must be daytime there too so they should be up posting on the internet all day and all night

[GISG]

Originally Posted by Walks_in_islam

I am quite sure that Jesus says that the measures you mete in judgement will be measured back to you. I am comfortable in thinking that makes a lot more sense than after thousands of years of outlining that it is a grevious sin to put yourself in God's place suddenly you are given rights to judge others now today. Just thinkin'.

It is not putting myself in God's place to know that Islam is a false religion, that worships demonic forces.

I am extremely comfortable making that statement, and for whatever else I may be judged on, it won't be the fact that Islam is demonic in beginnings, nature and end.

Not just thinkin', but knowing.

May you turn unto Jesus, the One true God, the only One who can save your soul.

[Walks_in_islam]

It is not possible to know a person's heart or who that person worships from your seat.

Warnings to watch what you DO not what you believe are sprinkled through both my book and yours. Whether you choose to follow them is your choice.

Therefore thou art inexcusable, O man, whosoever thou art that judgest: for wherein thou judgest another, thou condemnest thyself; for thou that judgest doest the same things.......

But we are sure that the judgment of God is according to truth against them which commit such things.

.......But after thy hardness and impenitent heart treasurest up unto thyself wrath against the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God

Who will render to every man according to his deeds

You are not the only one who sits in comfort doing exactly what you were instructed not to do. You are not even the only one on this board LOL

Originally Posted by GISG

It is not putting myself in God's place to know that Islam is a false religion, that worships demonic forces.

I am extremely comfortable making that statement, and for whatever else I may be judged on, it won't be the fact that Islam is demonic in beginnings, nature and end.

Not just thinkin', but knowing.

May you turn unto Jesus, the One true God, the only One who can save your soul.