Survey About Doctrinal Beliefs

[notofworks]

Originally Posted by NotforSale

No, my friend, I heard you. Problem is, you didn't hear me, and still don't. I've got health problems that give me every excuse in the World to EAT myself to death. But that's not the point.

The point is, most obese people in Church EAT TOO MUCH, and it has nothing to do with a health problem. It's a discipline problem. It's just like smoking; it's a discipline problem when you don't say, ENOUGH, NO MORE. Did you watch the Video? Obesity is the #1 Health Epidemic in this Country, and Apostolics are included.

So, about those who DO overeat? Does your Church endorse and teach moderation when eating? Do they set the "Standard" regarding this Health Epidemic? Or, do they cover their fat arms with long sleeves, lost in the World of inner Religious tolerance? Our pounding Pulpits talk about Holiness, condemning those who wear shorts or makeup, while we’re dying inside from a poor diet. You talk about imbalance!! This is pure hypocrisy!

Like I said, I’ve have learned how wrong I’ve been. God loves people, whether they wear shorts, cut their hair, smoke cigarettes, and believe in the Trinity. They can be fat, skinny, poor, weak, and be of a totally different Faith than me; God loves them. God loves us when we are confused and when we don’t dress modestly, and His love can reach far beyond the boundaries of my little Faith that I think is the right one.

Just like coffee plays a vital role in our lives (a considered addiction), even the use of Tobacco has its place. Tobacco can calm the nerves of a man, and many in combat used tobacco to help them when dealing with the dramatics of War. These men fought to the death to give us Liberty, coming home with a nicotine habit. Then we preach to them that they are lost if they smoke, not considering we were in our Lazyboy while they were picking up their buddies brains on some island in the Pacific.

If we don’t “Stand Back”, we will carry on with “Fools Gold” in our Faith. I believe perspective and experience is everything when seeking the Truth. The Cross was way too radical, and Jesus didn't die for my little idea of what I think is right.

NFS, you're one of my favorites and I mostly steer clear of OPII because he's praying for me to be thrown off the forum. But there isn't anyone more fanatical about staying thin and controlling my eating more than me. I consider it to be part of my worship to God and I'm continually irritated at huge preachers who scream about the evils of smoking.

That being said, OPII...man I hate to admit this...makes a valid point. While thyroid disorders are ridiculously uncommon, there are other things that cause morbid obesity. I have a son in a wheelchair as the result of brain cancer and he has an issue with fluids that build up in his body that ultimately are a result of his brain releasing too much fluid into his spine. The result is, there are times when his weight gets high and there was a time previously...and a surgery was done to correct this...that he was morbidly obese. Not everyone simply eats too much.

That being said, I do understand that by a great majority, those who are large are that way because of overeating, but it seems fair to at least make sure it's that reason before we get too direct with those that are.

[Sherri]

Originally Posted by OldPathsII

The comb your hair, hairspray argument is always the automatic comeback to this but at least MissBratfield was sharp enough to stay away from that one. You cannot compare the basic prinicples of personal hygiene to the decorating of oneself in order to look more attractive and noticeable. I will say this, if you comb your hair in such a way as to attract attention to yourself, you're headed down the wrong path.

Funny...........this would rule out about half of the women at General Conference.

[Sam]

Originally Posted by OldPathsII

...Have you ever been prescribed prednisone because of a serious illness? It can cause extreme weight gain. Have you ever had diabetes so bad that it spirals out of control and causes extreme weight gain?....

I've been on prednisone since May 2010 and it does cause hunger (seems like at times I want to eat anything that is not nailed down) and it does result in weight gain.

[faithit166]

Originally Posted by NotforSale

What voice did you hear? “God's Voice” was used to convict those in the Salem Witch Trials, putting innocent people in prison and condemning them to death. I’ve watched many use this term in the past, only to find they heard nothing accept an emotional array of maybes.

Spectral evidence is the number one cause of manipulation and deceit in Religion today.

has god ever spoken to you notforsale am just wondering

[aegsm76]

Originally Posted by Sherri

Funny...........this would rule out about half of the women at General Conference.

LOL

[jfrog]

Originally Posted by Sherri

Funny...........this would rule out about half of the women at General Conference.

Only half???? We should start praising God then!

[Truthseeker]

Originally Posted by aegsm76

Let's get back to the shorts issue.
Once you state that shorts are ok, then it becomes a matter of how short is ok.
You don't want daisy dukes showing up at your youth service.
We have had them in churches that I have attended, but only on the visitors.
There are times and places for appropriate dress.
The world we live in wants us, especially girls/women, to dress in a provocative manner.
We have a dress code at work, that is enforced by the staff.
No "short" shorts, halter tops, baggy pants, or other inappropriate dress is permitted.
I do not see the "dress code" at church as much different.

I wear long shorts at gym playing b ball. Show no more then sisters legs at church.

[Truthseeker]

Clothes is the easy part even monks, nuns, muslem can do that but Love as Christ then we talkin holiness.

Not saying clothes not important just easier then other issues, IMO.

[crakjak]

Originally Posted by crakjak

Would you consider this statement mean? "Your opinion means about as much to me as a 1/2 tsp of calf slobber!" And I happen to really like the guy that said that to me.

Come on, OP, will you answer the question? LOL

[OldPathsII]

Originally Posted by crakjak

Come on, OP, will you answer the question? LOL

I'm sorry I've been in prayer all evening. But as far as the statement, I would hope we could all consider one another's thoughts but if it's "Calf slobber" to you, fine.