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*AQuietPlace* · #**231** 02-02-2011, 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Ferd

For the record, while I am certainly a person who believes in the Water Spirit doctrine, I do not think the official position of AFF should be "tongues are essential for salvation"

Oops, Ferd, you just lost your Apostolic credentials.

Socialite · #**232** 02-02-2011, 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Ferd

For the record, while I am certainly a person who believes in the Water Spirit doctrine, I do not think the official position of AFF should be "tongues are essential for salvation"

Thanks for the clarification.

But that's an issue that Old Paths, Stephie, even Mr. Stout would say you "lost your Apostolicness" about.

Socialite · #**233** 02-02-2011, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by OldPaths

But this shouldn't be a place where I need to come and have to put up with the mockary that is so common. For example, you tear down the character of Bro. McKee just to make a point. That's uncalled for! I know that I, and many others, are tired of coming here and getting the all-out asault that you and others offer. Like I said, there are others here that need to take their brand of socalled Christianity somewhere else.

Mockery that is so common? How many times have we spoke? Or anyone with you for that matter?

Was this post not mocking?

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You and others here seem to often point out the greatness of the PCI view. Well i have a question: if the PCI was so great, where is it? What happened to it? Why has their false doctrine of confession-salvation fallen by the wayside within the ranks of Apostolics? I don't understand why many of you here talk about the PCI as if it were this glorious group of people. The fact is, the PCI is dead along with their dead doctrine!

pelathais · #**234** 02-02-2011, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by OldPaths

You and others here seem to often point out the greatness of the PCI view. Well i have a question: if the PCI was so great, where is it? What happened to it? Why has their false doctrine of confession-salvation fallen by the wayside within the ranks of Apostolics? I don't understand why many of you here talk about the PCI as if it were this glorious group of people. The fact is, the PCI is dead along with their dead doctrine!

Because they have been consistently forced out of orgs like the UPCI. In reality, if you could number the "PCI folks" and their descendants, they outnumber the UPCI. It's just that having been forced to seek fellowship elsewhere, many of their original Apostolic characteristics get watered down. This is unfortunate, IMHO.

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Originally Posted by OldPaths

Why has their false doctrine of confession-salvation fallen by the wayside within the ranks of Apostolics?

Find me some evidence that anyone within the "PCI ranks" ever preached a "doctrine of confession-salvation." You see Opie, you make something up out of thin air and then cry out, "Where is it!?!"

You made it up, Opie. You simply made it up. That's "where it is."

Socialite · #**235** 02-02-2011, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by OldPaths

But this shouldn't be a place where I need to come and have to put up with the mockary that is so common. For example, you tear down the character of Bro. McKee just to make a point. That's uncalled for! I know that I, and many others, are tired of coming here and getting the all-out asault that you and others offer. Like I said, there are others here that need to take their brand of socalled Christianity somewhere else.

His character? *REMOVED*

And furthermore, Mr. Mckee decided to volunteer his name and make it more personal than it was.

Socialite · #**236** 02-02-2011, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by pelathais

Because they have been consistently forced out of orgs like the UPCI. In reality, if you could number the "PCI folks" and their descendants, they outnumber the UPCI. It's just that having been forced to seek fellowship elsewhere, many of their original Apostolic characteristics get watered down. This is unfortunate, IMHO.

Find me some evidence that anyone within the "PCI ranks" ever preached a "doctrine of confession-salvation." You see Opie, you make something up out of thin air and then cry out, "Where is it!?!"

You made it up, Opie. You simply made it up. That's "where it is."

Not to mention the "undercover" PCI'ers that are still in the UPCI.

OldPathsII · #**237** 02-02-2011, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Socialite

Mockery that is so common? How many times have we spoke? Or anyone with you for that matter?

Was this post not mocking?

Of course its not mocking, it's stating a truth of the apostolic doctrine! God in his wisdom saw fit to have a group of psuedo-pentecostals swallowed up by those standing for the truth! If their false doctrine had been worthwhile it would have survived the test of time. But it didn't! Like the book of Acts says, if it is of God nothing can stop it! Well, it wasn't of God and it was stopped!

OldPathsII · #**238** 02-02-2011, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Socialite

His character? *REMOVED*

And furthermore, Mr. Mckee decided to volunteer his name and make it more personal than it was.

You didn't come on here and offer to discuss a scriptural passage, you first made Brother McKee sound like a fool, trying to make him look bad for posting his own quotes. You can't deny that you were making sport of him for doing that! You can disagree with someone if you like but to offer ridicule of his character while disagreeing is out of line and shouldn't be named among the brethren!

pelathais · #**239** 02-02-2011, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Socialite

Mockery that is so common? How many times have we spoke? Or anyone with you for that matter?

Was this post not mocking?

You beat me to it... LOL! Opie's repeated demonstrations of this kind of hypocrisy is why he hasn't posted for so long. He makes an angry clown out of himself, becomes disappointed with his own tone and drops out for months or even a year at a time.

Then, predictably, he begins to lurk again - not posting but grumbling to himself and muttering about the "compromise." Then, when he can't stand it any more he logs in and blows a gasket. Sorely wounded by loosing every debate, even the discussions about his own tone, he limps away to sulk and the cycle repeats itself.

Good to see you OP!

Socialite · #**240** 02-02-2011, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by OldPaths

Of course its not mocking, it's stating a truth of the apostolic doctrine! God in his wisdom saw fit to have a group of psuedo-pentecostals swallowed up by those standing for the truth! If their false doctrine had been worthwhile it would have survived the test of time. But it didn't! Like the book of Acts says, if it is of God nothing can stop it! Well, it wasn't of God and it was stopped!

Calling thousands of brothers who identify themselves as "PCI" as "dead" isn't mocking? So, if I said --- "The UPCI is as dead as it's doctrine. Their churches are full of dead men's bones. Why do you people glorify them as great people? They are false prophets!" That'd be okay? All within bounds? Just want your permission!

Survived the test of time? It more than survived. It didn't survive the ignorance of a political system that merged as "one body" but then changed their mind.

If you call PCI as something that was stopped, then Pentecostalism is really on the rocks. I mean, heck, how many years in between the Upper Room and the 20th Century are we talking? Yeah... poor logic.