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11-10-2007, 06:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Carpenter
Sure...SOME being the key point. How many people in a church of 200 is SOME? 10 or .5%? I would say even less than that know or care.
Most garden variety saints are more concerned about what and only what is going on in their local assembly. I bet more than SOME folks don't even know there are other UPC churches in their cities!
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This really depends on what district you are in. Growing up in Houston we knew very little about district stuff other than the occasional youth event and camps...
But in Oklahoma, churches are highly involved with the district stuff including monthly youth rallys and fellowship meetings and the almost monthly special events that take place as well. It is not uncommon to do several district events in a month here....In Ok the saints do consider the UPC as being a vital part of their Christian salvation experience...In OK the saints are very aware of the UPC as a monthly function in their church and really do take a lot of pride in being UPC.
Matter of fact...just 10 to 12 years ago it was still acceptable for a guest speaker at campmeeting to declare the UPC "the " body of Christ and that turning in your card was to no longer BE SAVED....(day bible teacher from Canada)...in OK, no one even blinked when this was taught.....and for the most part they wouldn't blink today either in my experience....
Although there may be one or two churches (I only have one in mind but I'll give it two) that do not hold this level of UPC loyalty, I can tell you that the rest of the Ok UPC local church saints are VERY LOYAL to the district, its functions, and their very PERSONAL involvement with it.....
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Originally Posted by Pastor Poster
Pelathais, I sure hope you don't get banned for telling the truth.
I have seen so many lies posted. The best one is the one Triumphant 1 did his best to combat. You know, the hair cutting party thing?
Prominent members of this board chose to believe the lie and even continue to spread it, even though T1 had totally proved it was false.
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11-10-2007, 06:56 PM
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Originally Posted by triumphant1
This really depends on what district you are in. Growing up in Houston we knew very little about district stuff other than the occasional youth event and camps...
But in Oklahoma, churches are highly involved with the district stuff including monthly youth rallys and fellowship meetings and the almost monthly special events that take place as well. It is not uncommon to do several district events in a month here....In Ok the saints do consider the UPC as being a vital part of their Christian salvation experience...In OK the saints are very aware of the UPC as a monthly function in their church and really do take a lot of pride in being UPC.
Matter of fact...just 10 to 12 years ago it was still acceptable for a guest speaker at campmeeting to declare the UPC "the " body of Christ and that turning in your card was to no longer BE SAVED....(day bible teacher from Canada)...in OK, no one even blinked when this was taught.....and for the most part they wouldn't blink today either in my experience....
Although there may be one or two churches (I only have one in mind but I'll give it two) that do not hold this level of UPC loyalty, I can tell you that the rest of the Ok UPC local church saints are VERY LOYAL to the district, its functions, and their very PERSONAL involvement with it.....
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It is sad to know that this is how some people in UPC think, but I believe you.
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11-10-2007, 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by triumphant1
This really depends on what district you are in. Growing up in Houston we knew very little about district stuff other than the occasional youth event and camps...
But in Oklahoma, churches are highly involved with the district stuff including monthly youth rallys and fellowship meetings and the almost monthly special events that take place as well. It is not uncommon to do several district events in a month here....In Ok the saints do consider the UPC as being a vital part of their Christian salvation experience...In OK the saints are very aware of the UPC as a monthly function in their church and really do take a lot of pride in being UPC.
Matter of fact...just 10 to 12 years ago it was still acceptable for a guest speaker at campmeeting to declare the UPC "the " body of Christ and that turning in your card was to no longer BE SAVED....(day bible teacher from Canada)...in OK, no one even blinked when this was taught.....and for the most part they wouldn't blink today either in my experience....
Although there may be one or two churches (I only have one in mind but I'll give it two) that do not hold this level of UPC loyalty, I can tell you that the rest of the Ok UPC local church saints are VERY LOYAL to the district, its functions, and their very PERSONAL involvement with it.....
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Probably got that idea from his pastor.
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11-10-2007, 07:01 PM
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I have tried to remember the exact year...it may have been 15 years...I know for sure it was after I got married in 91...and the speaker was a district Super from Canada....Ontario to be exact...he's dead now.
The deal to me was that he said that the upc is the body of Christ and he tells the preachers in his district that if they turn in their card they could not be saved.
Not everyone believes that--in that way--in OK....but the fact that this man could teach such a thing and no one even tried to correct it was something to me.
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Originally Posted by Pastor Poster
Pelathais, I sure hope you don't get banned for telling the truth.
I have seen so many lies posted. The best one is the one Triumphant 1 did his best to combat. You know, the hair cutting party thing?
Prominent members of this board chose to believe the lie and even continue to spread it, even though T1 had totally proved it was false.
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11-10-2007, 07:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Old Paths
Probably got that idea from his pastor.
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He was a Dist Super from Canada...and was not young....I think he got it from somewhere else.... 
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I DIDN'T HAVE A HAIR CUTTING PARTY!
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Originally Posted by Pastor Poster
Pelathais, I sure hope you don't get banned for telling the truth.
I have seen so many lies posted. The best one is the one Triumphant 1 did his best to combat. You know, the hair cutting party thing?
Prominent members of this board chose to believe the lie and even continue to spread it, even though T1 had totally proved it was false.
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11-10-2007, 07:04 PM
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She makes me look good!
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Originally Posted by JaneEyre
It is sad to know that this is how some people in UPC think, but I believe you.
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I don't want my real point to go unnoticed....
For the most part, the UPC saints in OK really DO care about being a part of the organization...
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I DIDN'T HAVE A HAIR CUTTING PARTY!
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Originally Posted by Pastor Poster
Pelathais, I sure hope you don't get banned for telling the truth.
I have seen so many lies posted. The best one is the one Triumphant 1 did his best to combat. You know, the hair cutting party thing?
Prominent members of this board chose to believe the lie and even continue to spread it, even though T1 had totally proved it was false.
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11-10-2007, 07:35 PM
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Originally Posted by triumphant1
Wow...I'm not impressed at all by this youth leaders arrogance and blatant attitude of "we will control the preacher" and "we will establish from the get go that if you try to change us there will be consequences for you"....
The only way to explain this is to admit the hard nosed saints control the pulpit in your church...no wonder they are trying to force your hand to make a decision....I have a feeling they are talking behind your back concerning whether ir not they will support you if you don't go their way...
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This is totally wrong. NO one is telling me to fellowship or not. They just let me know what the former pastor had done.
No one has tried to call my hand on nothing.
You are so off base.
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11-10-2007, 07:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Coonskinner
I imagine Whole Hearted is a lot smarter than to allow his Sunday sermon to be dictated by some people on a message board.
Give me a break.
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You are right. Neither one of my messages tomorrow will have anything to do with anything on this forum or anything that the UPC is doing.
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11-10-2007, 07:48 PM
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....I don't think OK Dist is going anywhere anytime soon...
I think OK is a little to moderate for the Tulsa Meeting....
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11-10-2007, 08:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Neckstadt
If JG is Johnny Godair if that is how his name is spelled.
In the scope of the kingdom of God.
Who cares.
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Johnny Godair is in Durham NC
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