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View Poll Results: Prom Participation
Yes, my kids will/did go and dance etc 19 44.19%
Yes, they go but refrain from the dance floor 1 2.33%
No, we have a prom night alternative 9 20.93%
Nope! No way. We are REAL Apostolic! 14 32.56%
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Old 08-25-2008, 08:04 PM
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O.K. well I did broad-brush the post, but for real...you can only protect your children so far, and then they have to live in the world and make grown up decisions. To me it is better to give them a little latitude and guide/train them in how to handle situations, than to deny them access instead of teaching them. This fosters dependence, and an inability to cope with situations when they have no choice.

I think moderation in all things applies here!
I totally agree with this!
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Old 08-25-2008, 08:18 PM
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I take it you must only go to ft food places and Denny's
not my idea of dining out I must say
I never said that; however, this thread isn't really about eating at a restaurant that serves alcohol, but about letting your kid make several unhealthy choices that you do not want him/her to make. Do you want to make this argument about proms, or do you want to make this argument about which restaurant we can eat at?
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Old 08-25-2008, 08:26 PM
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Don't you just love it when we find common ground
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Old 08-25-2008, 09:15 PM
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Re: Proms and Pentecostals

In all things, people are shaped by their personal experiences or the experiences told to them by others if they don't have direct contact.

Example: The story of the blind men who "feel" an elephant and all come up with different descriptions of that an elephant looks like. One says it is like a rope, another like a massive tree trunk, another like a giant fan, etc......

Those who know kids who did "bad" things on their proms (or did bad things themselves!) will undoubtedly have a low opinion of such an event. Those who had a wonderful romantic evening (or even met their current wives) obviously have a much different view.

Having been to proms as well as DJing them, I don't see them as massive roman orgies, but very controlled events where young people can have a good time. Some don't -but most do!
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Old 08-25-2008, 09:18 PM
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I never said that; however, this thread isn't really about eating at a restaurant that serves alcohol, but about letting your kid make several unhealthy choices that you do not want him/her to make. Do you want to make this argument about proms, or do you want to make this argument about which restaurant we can eat at?
i was only goading you and it worked. sorry just my nature to try and pick a fight. j/k

actually why do you feel that letting them go to the prom is an unhealthy choice? would like to hear your opinion on that.
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Old 08-25-2008, 09:36 PM
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Re: Proms and Pentecostals

If one allows their children out of their sight and without their supervision, they will do lots of things on their own that might be considered unhealthy.

I forbid my daughter to read Harry Potter books a long time ago. I'd listened to well meaning friends speak negatively about them, and, believing what I'd heard, told her not to read them.

Well, little did I know that she'd already read three of them and watched one of the movies!!

There is a boy at the church my kids attend and I've known him since he was born. He's 9 years old and loves to read. He asked me if I'd ever heard of Goosebumps books. I told him that Zak had a whole bunch of them and Aaron asked if he could have some. I told him I'd ask Zak, but since he's 17, I think he'd let Aaron have them all.

I talked to Aaron's mom about it and she informed me that her husband didn't like those books and didn't want Aaron reading them. Aaron told me that he reads them at school all the time...LOL!

In raising children, we have to choose our battles wisely. There are times to relent on things that don't matter in the long run while being strong on other issues.

Now that my children are in their late and middle teens, reading Harry Potter books isn't important. I just want them to stay off drugs, keep their purity, attend church actively, and be respectful. If I focus on what's important, I feel that my kids can attend things like the prom and maintain the important things I've taught them while giving them choices that aren't detrimental to their development. When they get to be in their mid to late teens, they need to make more and more choices on their own, cause it won't be long until I have no more say-so in ANY matters.

My son is 17. If he wants to be on drugs and partake in sex, NOT attending the prom isn't going to keep him from doing those things. I have to trust that the teachings and values I've instilled in him for the past 17 years are doing their job, no matter what venue he's involved with. So far, so good.

It's the same with my almost 15 year old daughter.
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Just a side note...


It once again occurs to me the "Gray Area" is much larger than I once imagined!
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Old 08-26-2008, 06:44 AM
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Good answer! Sounds like a great story, and a great marriage. Congratulations.
Thank you. But keep us in your prayers, we're having our share of stormy weather.
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Old 08-26-2008, 06:50 AM
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Re: Proms and Pentecostals

A good friend of mine tried dope for the first time at Midwinter Youth Retreat. Maybe we should ban our kids from going there too? lol

The key is raising them right and...SUPERVISION. If YOU'RE doing your job as a parent and supervising your children after prom...things will be ok. But if you kiss them goodbye and let them out of your sight...there could very well be trouble...even if it's a religious retreat. It's not about the prom....it's about parenting. Interestingly some Christian parents don't get this. Even in churches that offer a banquet this problem is glaring. I've seen parents drop Johnny or Sally Sue off at the church for the banquet and drive away. They shifted responsibility of parenting to the church! Now if the kids sneak out or find a "hang out" around the church to smoke or whatever guess who gets the blame? The Church.

Parents...just parent your children and you have nothing to worry about.
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I attended my Senior Prom (was on the Prom Court/ was Homecoming Queend too)and was Pentecostal - The entire evening was heavily chaperoned with school officials and parents. There was NO tolerance policy for alcohol, drugs and unwanted pregnancy. The only thing that was a negative was the dancing. The music was worldly (there's wordly music that is being playing in stores, restaurants and malls) Dresses that was sleeveless and low-cut (same what you see in public places) There were several of us Pentecostals there and wore very modest dresses and did not dance - enjoyed the food.

Matter of fact, the drugs, alcohol and unwanted pregnancies happened but not on Prom night.

Not sure where some of you all get your information - maybe too many movies - LOL
I don't watch movies, I read the newspapers and I know some of the kids.
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