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08-21-2008, 10:25 PM
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Re: Thanks EB..Gotta Go
I don't agree with everybody!!!
...actually, I have no idea what is going on here. I missed the whole thing, blast!
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08-21-2008, 10:28 PM
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America, bless God.
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Re: Thanks EB..Gotta Go
I know all about the evolution of this forum. I have been at every one from the very beginning and have seen it all. The fighting doesn't stop because many of the folks on here would have nothing else to do if it did. And that would make a bad forum wouldn't it?
What I'm telling you is that we should prefer a wholesome, godly, encouraging forum even if it wasn't quite as active; over the filth, mud slinging and attitude that we have to wade through now. I get enough garbage from the world. It gets sickning coming to the alleged apostolic forums and seeing the same putrid things over and over.
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08-21-2008, 10:32 PM
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Re: Thanks EB..Gotta Go
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Originally Posted by OneAccord
Bro. Benincasa, I agree with what you are saying. Hucksters rise yp anf fall like dandelions in the spring. They collapse under the own weight. In affect, they often destroy themselves. But... its always been that way, and, unfornately, it always will be that way. Remember Thedeus in Acts 5? And Judas of Galilee? They were the televangelists of their day and, like so many today, they came to naught. The reason the "shock value" of the TV preacher scandals has worn off, is because, unfortunately, every evangelical pastor, every evangelical preacher is suspect. That unfortunate, yet thats the way it is in the eyes of the world. You, as an evangelist, in the eyes of a cynical world, are nothing more than a Jim Bakker in waiting. Every tent preacher is nothing more than a fly by night con artist. Every pastor is a control freak whose one and only purpose in life is to bleed his congregants dry. Every person, whether thaey are Apostolic or Baptist who publicly utters the name "Jesus" is a religious wacko who'se just waiting for some guru to offer them some "special kook-aid". Thats the way the word sees us. Its wrong. Its unfortunate, but sadly, it is true. They said it of Jesus, they say it of us.
As long as there are gullible people who throw caution to the wind and give heed to seducing spirits... as long as there are silly women (Pauls words, not mine) to lead away...as long as there are people who get carried about by every wind of doctrine... there will be TB's and others like him.
All the while though, there will also be Peters and Pauls who concern themselves with preaching the true Gospel. There will always be Phebes and Priscillas who only concern themselves with being a witness of the Lord. How will the world know the difference between the Thedeus' and the Peters? By the words of Gamaliel: Act 5:39 But if it be of God, ye cannot overthrow it; lest haply ye be found even to fight against God. The dross is purged, the silver is purified. The chaff blows away, the seed remains.
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Well said, OA!!! That will preach!!! Good on ya, Mate!!
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08-21-2008, 10:38 PM
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Re: Thanks EB..Gotta Go
EB--you know I respect you and what you stand for. But there are some of us outside that little circle that still love God with all of our heart and are working diligently day in and day out for the Kingdom. We do not consider ourselves Charismatic, but we are definitely not where you are.
Just because someone doesn't believe everything exactly like you doesn't make them a charlatan or a fake. It only means that they understand some things in Scripture differently than you. You are judging a whole lot of people who might call themselves "Charismatic" by the foolishness of a few, when in fact there are lots of sincere God-fearing people in that movement that are just as turned off and sickened by this stuff as you are.
But besides all that.........I still love you, brother! I trust that God is moving greatly in Fort Lauderdale (one of my favorite places to visit).
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08-21-2008, 10:40 PM
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Re: Thanks EB..Gotta Go
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Originally Posted by drummerboy_dave
I know all about the evolution of this forum. I have been at every one from the very beginning and have seen it all. The fighting doesn't stop because many of the folks on here would have nothing else to do if it did. And that would make a bad forum wouldn't it?
What I'm telling you is that we should prefer a wholesome, godly, encouraging forum even if it wasn't quite as active; over the filth, mud slinging and attitude that we have to wade through now. I get enough garbage from the world. It gets sickning coming to the alleged apostolic forums and seeing the same putrid things over and over.
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You know what I would prefer? I would prefer a wholesome, godly, encouraging forum. And, while ther is much of what you say here, I ignore the stuff I don't care for and try to find the wholesome, godly and encouraging stuff.
This forum, like all other forums, is what we, the members, make it to be. Thankfully, the Admin (who does a great job) doesn't dictate what the forum is to be... they leave that to us. And, by reading the rules and purpose of AFF, I know what the Admins intend for it to be. And, I do my little part to help achiecve that goal.
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08-21-2008, 10:45 PM
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Re: Thanks EB..Gotta Go
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Have you ever been to one of these so-called " mainstream" churches?
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Sister more than you could imagine. My house is visited by people from all different religions. My children see Muslims, and our friend Rabbi Finkelstien, Mormon missionaries, to Jehovah Witnesses discussing the scripture with their father. My daughters are raised seeing and visiting all kinds of different places and they are given explanations to what they are viewing. They live in a extremely diverse city here in Fort Lauderdale. My girls are shown the difference between the holy and profane. They can handle themselves with other faiths better than some church kids I have seen.
When they become adults they will be able to handle the Todd Bentley's of the World, and tell it like it is.
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Honestly EB, if I had to pick between your church and Sis Alvear's, based your posts here, I would have to go to hers. (I would also go to Sam's, MOW's, Rendas, Rhoni's, and even Stephen Hoover's... although I would only go to his for the cigars! And I would visit SoCalUpc's but only for a visit  )
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My dear I haven't the foggiest idea to why you would offer such a scenario?
If you would need for me to jump through hoops to please you in order to have you visit with us. Then I would highly doubt that my Brothers and Sisters here would continue to have respect for me. I'm so sorry that I didn't meet with your approval, but I don't have to, and you don't have to meet with mine. It's all about want and need, and they are two totally different things. We NEED to do lots of things, but if we don't WANT to do them we won't do them. You can't force people to do anything they don't want to do, so one should NEVER try. Jesus never forced anyone and He never chased anyone down to straighten out a misunderstanding (thank you Elder Burk).
What ever church you attend be at peace with your choice, and look for someone to tell you the truth, and not some sappy fluffly, sticky sweet drool.
I hope I answered your question, or your dig, whatever your intention was.
In JESUS NAME
Brother Benincasa
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08-21-2008, 10:53 PM
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America, bless God.
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Re: Thanks EB..Gotta Go
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Originally Posted by OneAccord
You know what I would prefer? I would prefer a wholesome, godly, encouraging forum. And, while ther is much of what you say here, I ignore the stuff I don't care for and try to find the wholesome, godly and encouraging stuff.
This forum, like all other forums, is what we, the members, make it to be. Thankfully, the Admin (who does a great job) doesn't dictate what the forum is to be... they leave that to us. And, by reading the rules and purpose of AFF, I know what the Admins intend for it to be. And, I do my little part to help achiecve that goal.
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ditto!
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08-21-2008, 11:06 PM
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Re: Thanks EB..Gotta Go
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Originally Posted by Sherri
EB--you know I respect you and what you stand for. But there are some of us outside that little circle that still love God with all of our heart and are working diligently day in and day out for the Kingdom. We do not consider ourselves Charismatic, but we are definitely not where you are.
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Sister Sherri, I don't mean you. You are way too nice a person. I would never place you in a category with Todd Bentley.
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Just because someone doesn't believe everything exactly like you doesn't make them a charlatan or a fake.
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Sister Sherri Todd Bentley and Benny Hinn are disgusting. It's not a matter of everyone believing what I believe, if that were the case then the rest of Pentecost would be in trouble. It's a matter of men and women ripping people off under Jesus name. That's wrong and wicked. Evil is knowing to do right and doing worse. Those people know the Word, why do they hurt people so bad in our country to give Jesus a bad name.
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It only means that they understand some things in Scripture differently than you.
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Ahhh......no, it means that they are flipped out weirdos. Why do I say that? Benny Hinn said that Jesus was supposed to appear in person on the stage of one of his crusades, Oral Roberts said a fifty foot tall Jesus was going to take him home (wherever that is who knows?), and Todd Bentley said God told him not to preach about Jesus, but tell the people about the ANGEL?
Sister Sherri we are not talking about a difference in Eschatology we are talking about full blown chaotic comic book foolishness.
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Originally Posted by Sherri
You are judging a whole lot of people who might call themselves "Charismatic" by the foolishness of a few, when in fact there are lots of sincere God-fearing people in that movement that are just as turned off and sickened by this stuff as you are.
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Then they need to get upset and kick the flakes out the door and correct the warped and weird goofy stuff that is in their midst.
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Originally Posted by Sherri
But besides all that.........I still love you, brother! I trust that God is moving greatly in Fort Lauderdale (one of my favorite places to visit).
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Jesus is moving in a great way, when are you all coming down this way?
In Jesus name
Brother Benincasa
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08-21-2008, 11:08 PM
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Re: Thanks EB..Gotta Go
Benni, I sooo forgot you are in the Ft Lauderdale area. We visited the church where Bro Elms is Pastor a few weeks ago.
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08-21-2008, 11:18 PM
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Re: Thanks EB..Gotta Go
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Originally Posted by Stephen Hoover
Benni, I sooo forgot you are in the Ft Lauderdale area. We visited the church where Bro Elms is Pastor a few weeks ago.
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Wow you forgot?
Why?
Sniffle.
Sniffle.
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