RACISM is not the center and circumfrence of my WORLD.
I am really irritated with the constant social issues of today such as homosexuality and RACE that are constantly IN YOUR FACE from morning to night.
There is LIFE outside of the RACE issue.
Simply because I express my resentment at the IN YOUR FACE attitude with racism, you have to come on and make a BIG DEAL out of it.
I have no idea what race you are, but my reccommendation to you is GET A LIFE.
Apparently, because of some twisted idea of my rejection of the "in your face" attitude regarding race which is so cherished by you, you have chosen to twist the meaning of a word to send me an infraction.
I would tell you to get lost but somehow you ended up as a moderator...good grief.
Actually I thought you were the one making a big deal out of it...I was responding to YOUR assertion that for the original poster to raise the issue is itself racism. I disagree with that.
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Oh boy.....That is NOT just a Muslim name. It's an Arabic name and there are MANY Arabic Christians...Good Grief. Obama is NOT a Muslim you people. Too bad he does not have a good white christian name like Johnson HAHAHAH
Obama went to Christian schools. His father ONLY was a Muslim and that father was OUT of Obamas life MOST of his life. He goes to a Christian church. Listen to the man...you ever hear him say Allahu akbar? Does his wife wear head coverings? He is an American...listen to the man. Good grief. That right there is ignorance which is what Racism is based on....
You are basically right but I think...
You need to go visit the site of the church he attends in Chicago! He is an African who lives in America. Their site is EXTREMELY racist in my opinion and I have a real hard time considering the United Church of Christ a Christian church regardless what their name includes.
Apprehended, did you originally post "I don't give a ****", or did you spell it out, "I don't give a flip?"
I'm only asking because...since "flip" isn't that bad of a word (albeit a byword or slang when used in this context), why would you feel the need to asterisk it?
If a word is bad enough to put it in asterisks, then readers will [reasonably] assume that it is of that nature, and fill in the blanks with a true curse word, intentionally or not. Please do not try to pretend such innocence that you are unaware of other 4-letter words that could easily fill in that blank.
If you did not originally asterisk the word, and spelled it out, innocently assuming that it was pure enough to use in this forum, then disregard my comments.
If I recall, it was flip. Someone edited it out with asterisks. Yes this would imply that it was a curse word.
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Originally Posted by Thoughts by T
OMG. For all of you overeacters out there, I never once called anybody a racist. This was not the intent of the thread when it started. I was simply bringing up the question of absurdity of this whole thing. And "apprehended", it seems as if you are never wrong and always try to defend yourself...theres no point in arguing with someone who refuses to look at the big picture.
I was simply trying to bring out the point of "where is the balance in this whole thing? Is this something they just threw together? My goodness, their foreign missions board has no one that speaks another language, no one that actually can relate to being a foreign missionary, and how absurd is that? Maybe some have been over to other countrys and done some stuff over on other parts of the world, but my goodness how are they planning on starting new churches across seas? Has this whole thing really been thought out at all? I could go on and on about the whole absurdity of it all, but what is the point? To ensure balance, this should have been looked at and thought out more way than it has. I did not point fingers at any person or call anybody a racist. But I could have clarified my point better. My apologies. I will make sure in the future.
Let's be consistent. I believe that the bolded word above could be understood as taking the Lord's name in vain and in need of an edit.
To report a post with a questionable amount of vulgarity-not widely accepted as vulgarity-just because they reject your premise is sophmoric. However, admin has deemed it as vulgar so that is that. But the motive for reporting is suspect.
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You need to go visit the site of the church he attends in Chicago! He is an African who lives in America. Their site is EXTREMELY racist in my opinion and I have a real hard time considering the United Church of Christ a Christian church regardless what their name includes.
By "Christian" I mean religiously....they are far from being Muslim
Theologically they claim to be liberal...I see the afrocentral themes on the website and I can't say I am convinced they are racist, though to a technical degree they might be...sort of segregationalists?
__________________ Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
Every sinner must repent of their sins.
That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
Oh boy.....That is NOT just a Muslim name. It's an Arabic name and there are MANY Arabic Christians...Good Grief. Obama is NOT a Muslim you people. Too bad he does not have a good white christian name like Johnson HAHAHAH
Obama went to Christian schools. His father ONLY was a Muslim and that father was OUT of Obamas life MOST of his life. He goes to a Christian church. Listen to the man...you ever hear him say Allahu akbar? Does his wife wear head coverings? He is an American...listen to the man. Good grief. That right there is ignorance which is what Racism is based on....
Apparently you haven't read enough about Obama. He did claim to be a Muslim at one point and recently became a supposed Christian. Do you remember he refused the Bible when he was sworn into his current office and requested the Koran? It was a heated moment and the government caved in to him allowing him to use the Koran. This sickens me. I think he became "Christian" because he realizes America is a Christian country and he is seeking votes.
EDIT: Sorry - I have the wrong guy. It was Keith Ellison that was sworn in with a Koran, but Obama did attend the mosque occasionally when he lived with his dad. He does have Muslim roots and I have a problem with a man who refuses to salute the American flag but wants to hold the position of president. If he can't pledge allegiance to our flag we do not need him in office.
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Last edited by George; 01-08-2008 at 02:20 AM.
Reason: incorrect info
If I recall, it was flip. Someone edited it out with asterisks. Yes this would imply that it was a curse word.
Let's be consistent. I believe that the bolded word above could be understood as taking the Lord's name in vain and in need of an edit.
To report a post with a questionable amount of vulgarity-not widely accepted as vulgarity-just because they reject your premise is sophmoric. However, admin has deemed it as vulgar so that is that. But the motive for reporting is suspect.
Jekyll....I stand corrected. I apologize for using OMG.
Apparently you haven't read enough about Obama. He did claim to be a Muslim at one point and recently became a supposed Christian. Do you remember he refused the Bible when he was sworn into his current office and requested the Koran? It was a heated moment and the government caved in to him allowing him to use the Koran. This sickens me. I think he became "Christian" because he realizes America is a Christian country and he is seeking votes.
EDIT: Sorry - I have the wrong guy. It was Keith Ellison that was sworn in with a Koran, but Obama did attend the mosque occasionally when he lived with his dad. He does have Muslim roots and I have a problem with a man who refuses to salute the American flag but wants to hold the position of president. If he can't pledge allegiance to our flag we do not need him in office.
You have read too many emails. Snopes has the true story on this guy, and no, he's not Muslim, nor does he refuse to salute the flag nor refuse to pledge allegiance to this country. He's been Christian since the 1980's, long before he became a politician. And he never lived with his dad. His dad left him when he was 2 yrs old and died when he was 21.
Apparently you haven't read enough about Obama. He did claim to be a Muslim at one point and recently became a supposed Christian. Do you remember he refused the Bible when he was sworn into his current office and requested the Koran? It was a heated moment and the government caved in to him allowing him to use the Koran. This sickens me. I think he became "Christian" because he realizes America is a Christian country and he is seeking votes.
EDIT: Sorry - I have the wrong guy. It was Keith Ellison that was sworn in with a Koran, but Obama did attend the mosque occasionally when he lived with his dad. He does have Muslim roots and I have a problem with a man who refuses to salute the American flag but wants to hold the position of president. If he can't pledge allegiance to our flag we do not need him in office.
He may have attended a mosque with his dad....you think he can just tell us dad to stuff it? Kids go with their parents because they make them.
I have not found proof of him having Muslim allegiance
As for the "pledge"...actually he has and does say the pledge when it is done...what you are referring to was the infamous chain email that has him not having his hand over his heart for the national anthem. I've seen a lot of white Americans with white names lol....christians, NOT put their hand over their heart when the anthem is played. They have pics of him doing it though to the pledge of Allegiance
So it is untrue that he refuses to pledge allegiance..
Muslim roots... how many of us might have murderous and adulterous roots? You are talking about his father.
Where is the evidence he attended Mosques other than the chain emails which is not evidence. Anyone can make an email and mass email it out and spam people
You have read too many emails. Snopes has the true story on this guy, and no, he's not Muslim, nor does he refuse to salute the flag nor refuse to pledge allegiance to this country. He's been Christian since the 1980's, long before he became a politician. And he never lived with his dad. His dad left him when he was 2 yrs old and died when he was 21.
I will have to ask though; Does your brother know you are on here? 
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