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01-19-2008, 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Praxeas
what does "Amazing Race" and highlighting an apostolic young lady that is the voice behind a cartoon character have to do with keep standards?
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"Furthermore, because of the display of all these evils on television, we disapprove of any of our people having television sets in their homes." (Articles of Faith UPCI)
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01-19-2008, 06:22 PM
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Da Evangelist
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Correct me if I am wrong, but ain't the UPCI a fellowship of ministers not churches? The manual applies to ministry only and there are somethings they recommend pastors ask of their people.
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01-19-2008, 06:24 PM
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Supercalifragilisticexpiali...
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Originally Posted by Pianoman
With time, they will become two seperate Oneness organizations with relations comparable to the ALJC and UPCI.
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... or relations comparable to the AMF and Global...
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"It is inhumane, in my opinion, to force people who have a genuine medical need for coffee to wait in line behind people who apparently view it as some kind of recreational activity." Dave Barry 2005
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Articles on such subjects as "The New Birth," will be accepted, whether they teach that the new birth takes place before baptism in water and Spirit, or that the new birth consists of baptism of water and Spirit. - THE PENTECOSTAL HERALD Dec. 1945
"It is doubtful if any Trinitarian Pentecostals have ever professed to believe in three gods, and Oneness Pentecostals should not claim that they do." - Daniel Segraves
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01-19-2008, 06:31 PM
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Resident PeaceMaker
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I'm not UPCI but to me if a like minded group of men desire to form a ministerial association then they have that right.
If they don't like the direction the UPCI is headed then,then I applaud them for following their convictions.
If a group of more liberal minded men want to form a ministerial fellowship then they have that right also.
If I left one group to join or help to form another,I would leave on good terms, and in a correct spirit.
If a card is a man's message them he is missing point anyways.
Likeminded folks usually stick together.
I don't care for church politics myself,the cause of Christ and The Kingdom of Heaven are major concerns for me.
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People who are always looking for fault,can find it easily all they have to do,is look into their mirror.
There they can find plenty of fault.
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01-19-2008, 06:34 PM
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Supercalifragilisticexpiali...
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WPF says one can join up and remain a member of another fellowship or church organization.
And... while they will not licence, they will also provide assistance to pastors for licensing and ordaining in the local church.
So, just how logical is it for a minister to be ordained and licenced by multiple identities, and pay dues (that many have already stated are too high) to two of more identities???
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"It is inhumane, in my opinion, to force people who have a genuine medical need for coffee to wait in line behind people who apparently view it as some kind of recreational activity." Dave Barry 2005
I am a firm believer in the Old Paths
Articles on such subjects as "The New Birth," will be accepted, whether they teach that the new birth takes place before baptism in water and Spirit, or that the new birth consists of baptism of water and Spirit. - THE PENTECOSTAL HERALD Dec. 1945
"It is doubtful if any Trinitarian Pentecostals have ever professed to believe in three gods, and Oneness Pentecostals should not claim that they do." - Daniel Segraves
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01-19-2008, 06:35 PM
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Da Evangelist
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Originally Posted by Stephen Hoover
WPF says one can join up and remain a member of another fellowship or church organization.
And... while they will not licence, they will also provide assistance to pastors for licensing and ordaining in the local church.
So, just how logical is it for a minister to be ordained and licenced by multiple identities, and pay dues (that many have already stated are too high) to two of more identities???
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That is a very good question.
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01-19-2008, 06:51 PM
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God's Son
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I see we have another manual thumper on board. Welcome. If they followed Biblical principles the junk would not have been in the manual to begin with.
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Originally Posted by Stephanas
Another Question:
If the leadership of the UPC had spent the last two decades upholding the manual rather than chasing the myth of "fastest growing," would there be a Worldwide Pentecostal Fellowship today?
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01-19-2008, 06:57 PM
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God's Son
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It would be nice for someone to post verbatim the tv ban resolution along side of the internet approval resolution. The resolutions are a few pages apart. A lot of the same language is in both resolutions.
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Originally Posted by Stephanas
"Furthermore, because of the display of all these evils on television, we disapprove of any of our people having television sets in their homes." (Articles of Faith UPCI)
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A religious spirit allows people to tolerate hatred and anger under the guise of passion and holiness. Bill Johnson
Legalism has no pity on people. Legalism makes my opinion your burden, makes opinion your boundary, makes my opinion your obligation-Lucado
Some get spiritual because they see the light. Others because they feel the heat.Ray Wylie Hubbard
Definition of legalism- Damned if you do. Damned if you don't. TV
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01-19-2008, 07:01 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tv1a
I see we have another manual thumper on board. Welcome. If they followed Biblical principles the junk would not have been in the manual to begin with.
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Manual thumper?
I hardly think so, but I do believe that if a person enters into a covenant with a fellowship, they should live by the terms of that covenant.
And, if a person accepts a leadership position in an organization, they have a fiduciary duty to uphold the principles of that organization until the regulations are changed.
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01-19-2008, 07:05 PM
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Da Evangelist
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Stephanas
Manual thumper?
I hardly think so, but I do believe that if a person enters into a covenant with a fellowship, they should live by the terms of that covenant.
And, if a person accepts a leadership position in an organization, they have a fiduciary duty to uphold the principles of that organization until the regulations are changed.
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Brother you just condemned people for wanting to change the manuel a few post earlier.
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