Should the Church be Adept at Suppressing Negative Information?

[StillStanding]

I think it's an organization's responsibility to put as much of a positive spin to bad news as possible without lying or stretching the truth. To totally avoid the elephant in the room is a big mistake.

1. Face the issue
2. Handle the issue
3. Move on!

Originally Posted by Pastor Poster

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1. An organization misleads its constituents, and the public, by posting inflated attendance numbers.

2. An organization discloses faulty information knowingly.

3. An organization discloses financial records improperly.

Ummmmm......I think that is called LYING.

[crakjak]

Originally Posted by Barb

There is no question in my mind but that you want this, Elder...I would hope that every pastor feels this way.

You don't have to answer this openly for it is not my desire to put you on front street and confront you, but as a layperson, I can't help but wonder...

Is it not possible for those who feel to "check out of that system" to stay and make changes from within?!

For those who may leave, what voice will they have when they are no longer affiliated?!

Respectfully asked...

Poster Pastor is suffering withdrawal, I experienced that over 25 years ago, if one follows the leading of God in their lives, there is life after the UPC. There is life in the UPC as well, one must follow the Lord in spite of their location.
Your past does not determine your future, unless you give your past permission to keep you in bondage from your future.

[Nahum]

I am not in withdrawal.

It just gets old.

I am very glad I am moving away from the epicenter of it all.

I feel so much better.

[crakjak]

Originally Posted by Pastor Poster

I am not in withdrawal.

It just gets old.

I am very glad I am moving away from the epicenter of it all.

I feel so much better.

That's much better, now move on.

Not from AFF, just from the distractions of the past. You have too much living in front of your to wallow in what you have left.

[pelathais]

Originally Posted by Pastor Poster

I am not in withdrawal.

It just gets old.

I am very glad I am moving away from the epicenter of it all.

I feel so much better.

And yet you've been noticably cranky and downcast. You started 2 threads yesterday just for UPC bashing before giving us the one on "Your favorite Christmas Memory."

I like the PastorPoster drinking hot chocolate in his pj's and opening presents on Christmas morning a whole lot more that the PP waving a torch inciting a mob to storm the castle on Dunn Rd.

Sure, the mad doctor has a monster in there. But the monster likes flowers and kittens, just like in the Boris Karloff movie.

[Nahum]

Originally Posted by pelathais

And yet you've been noticably cranky and downcast. You started 2 threads yesterday just for UPC bashing before giving us the one on "Your favorite Christmas Memory."

I like the PastorPoster drinking hot chocolate in his pj's and opening presents on Christmas morning a whole lot more that the PP waving a torch inciting a mob to storm the castle on Dunn Rd.

Sure, the mad doctor has a monster in there. But the monster likes flowers and kittens, just like in the Boris Karloff movie.

Can't have one without the other!!!!!!

UPC bashing?

Dude, you have no idea....

But your post was good and I still love you.


(take it easy on me, I'm trying to get over this stuff)

[Felicity]

Originally Posted by crakjak

Poster Pastor is suffering withdrawal, I experienced that over 25 years ago, if one follows the leading of God in their lives, there is life after the UPC. There is life in the UPC as well, one must follow the Lord in spite of their location.
Your past does not determine your future, unless you give your past permission to keep you in bondage from your future.

Good post!

[Bullwinkle]

Wow - hope you guys got a good deal on the truckload of tinfoil you're stringing around to keep the aliens at bay!!!!
This would be laughable if there weren't some innocent people who may be taken in by the stupidity of it.
The simple fact is that the divisional leaders are doing what they are supposed to be doing - not pouring gas on the fire but urging those under their influence to remain calm. That's not a conspiracy, that is being responsible!
Is it true that there have been only 15 credentials received at HQ? My guess would be yes. Is that all that have left or are in the process of leaving - certainly not. The job of divisional executives is not to indulge in speculation like anonymous internet stonethrowers.
The truth is, nobody knows what the fallout is going to be.

[PreacherV]

Originally Posted by Bullwinkle

Wow - hope you guys got a good deal on the truckload of tinfoil you're stringing around to keep the aliens at bay!!!!
This would be laughable if there weren't some innocent people who may be taken in by the stupidity of it.
The simple fact is that the divisional leaders are doing what they are supposed to be doing - not pouring gas on the fire but urging those under their influence to remain calm. That's not a conspiracy, that is being responsible!
Is it true that there have been only 15 credentials received at HQ? My guess would be yes. Is that all that have left or are in the process of leaving - certainly not. The job of divisional executives is not to indulge in speculation like anonymous internet stonethrowers.
The truth is, nobody knows what the fallout is going to be.

AMEN, Brother!