"Joe the Plumber" actually isn't.

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by MikeinAR

The Fair Tax is the way to go. I wish we had politicians on either side of the aisle with the guts to implement it. It's the only true "fair" way to distribute the tax burden in this country.

From 8 sponsors in 1999 it has grown to 69 in the House and five in the Senate.

[MissBrattified]

Originally Posted by 1399

It is fair for the tax rate to increase as the amount of money you make increase.

Why? If one person pays $1,000.00/wk, and the other pays $10, isn't that a fair increase, based on income?

You're paying your taxes to a government, without which, you could not earn what you earn in the firs place (strictly politically speaking here.)

So why would it be unfair to assist your government?

I'm not opposed to paying taxes, 1399. So long as the government doesn't get greedy--oh, wait--too late for that. Assist my government? I'm only concerned with assisting my fellow Americans THROUGH the government. IF the government is just lining its' own pockets, then my tax dollars are being wasted. But that really isn't what we were talking about....

Say there are three siblings who have an elderly grandpa.

Two siblings bring in about 60k annually. However 1 sibling brings in about 200k annually.

Would it be a burden for the wealthier sibling to contribute more towards the care and necessities of the parent?

Would it be fair?
Wouldn't it be expected?
Wouldn't it be duty?

Um. HELLO!!! Knock knock! Are you there? If they both contributed 10% of their income, the one who makes 200k would be contributing $20,000.00 a year to Grandpa's care, while the other would be contributing $6,000.00. So the one making more money WOULD be contributing more money, according to his higher income. You don't have to increase the percentage to have that effect.

The problem is that too often Mr. 60k A Year wants the wealthier sibling to pay ALL of it since he can afford it, and THAT isn't fair. If he were my Grandpa, I'd want to pitch in at least a LITTLE bit, even if I couldn't pay as much as my wealthier sibling. It almost looks like the poorer sibling doesn't care about assisting his...Grandpa.

[Jermyn Davidson]

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Um. HELLO!!! Knock knock! Are you there?


Yeah I'm here. I think we just have to agree to disagree when it comes to the tax rate.

Taxing the very wealthy at a higher rate than the rest of the country is fine by me.


There is more to this than Joe the Plumber-- the fat kats gets no pity in my book.

[TRFrance]

People can nitpick about this guy's plumbing license all they want, and mock him for not being a "real plumber" ,etc... but they're missing the larger point.
Fact is, there are numerous people like him: "Joe the Plumber" , Joe Electrician, and Joe Landscaper etc who are going to be hurt by having to pay higher taxes.
To some people, $250,000 a year might sound like a lot of money. But if "Joe" has 3 kids (who he's trying to save for college for), a wife, a mortgage, 2 car notes, and a small business he's trying to keep afloat in this economy, raising his taxes is a huge burden.

[Jermyn Davidson]

we're talking about a 3% tax hike.

[deacon blues]

Originally Posted by MikeinAR

You and you're silly, old, tired trickle down economic talk, DB.

History proves it works. It didn't work with W b/c he didn't cut spending along with cutting taxes. The "silly, old, tired" mantra is a silly old and tired way of responding to the facts that run counter to your crazy notions that the answer to our economic woes is raising taxes on anyone.

By the way, why do you feel the need to call posters by silly names like "MikeinAWE"? Isn't that a tad childish?

Chillax, Bro Mike. If I am hurting your feelings, I'll quit. This is just an internet forum. It's not the sum total of your worth or self identity. I offer my apologies, MikeinAR.

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by 1399

I am not familiar with that.

For further information:

www.johnlinder.com

and

http://boortz.com

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by TRFrance

People can nitpick about this guy's plumbing license all they want, and mock him for not being a "real plumber" ,etc... but they're missing the larger point.
Fact is, there are numerous people like him: "Joe the Plumber" , Joe Electrician, and Joe Landscaper etc who are going to be hurt by having to pay higher taxes.
To some people, $250,000 a year might sound like a lot of money. But if "Joe" has 3 kids (who he's trying to save for college for), a wife, a mortgage, 2 car notes, and a small business he's trying to keep afloat in this economy, raising his taxes is a huge burden.

Excellent post, TRFrance!

[deacon blues]

Originally Posted by 1399

we're talking about a 3% tax hike.

Then lets raise yours 3% and see how you like it.

1399 it is sooo easy to spend other people's money, isn't it?

Say, would you like to run for Congress?

[MissBrattified]

Originally Posted by 1399

Yeah I'm here. I think we just have to agree to disagree when it comes to the tax rate.

Taxing the very wealthy at a higher rate than the rest of the country is fine by me.

There is more to this than Joe the Plumber-- the fat kats gets no pity in my book.

I don't understand your logic at all. Honestly. Most of the people I know who are making a good income have gotten there through their own hard work, and I don't think they should be punished for it by the government with higher taxes.

I've known enough wealthy people to know that MOST of them are just normal people who have worked very hard and/or have been good stewards of what has been passed on to them. I do not think other people should covet what they have, and resist paying their own fair share simply because others have it better.

The folks who get tax refunds every year, but complain about the wealthy not paying enough taxes are the ones who get no pity in my book.