I love the UPC

[warrior81680]

Originally Posted by Old Paths

Some men who say they love the Brethren, whether in the ogr. or not, say it just like the man who says he loves the wife that he beats the whole time he is "expressing" said love.


Fits BOTH ways.

AMEN.

[SDG]

Originally Posted by tbpew

hey, here's a thought...
now that a cool head is governing the fingers....
go back and edit it out!

JUST DID.

[SDG]

Originally Posted by rrford

Evidently nothing is too sacred to discuss. The bantering and humor about the UPC and AMF have always been a prt of this Forum and its predecessor.

I am just amazed that many are so quick to villify and condemn the FMD and its director without any absolute PROOF of what has happened. It is apparent there has been alot of heresay evidence flaunted about. I know that one side has been vocalized quite loudly. As of yet the other side has not been made known publically.

Would it interest anyone to handle this with wisdom and propriety as the scripture suggests? Or would you prefer to continue to publicly castigate the organization and individuals who have offered no defense nor presented their side of the story?

It's obvious that the UC army has been mobilizing prior to the election last Sept ... it started in Houston in '06 and it is taking a mind and force of it's own ...

If they cannot retain control of the org ... this Sept ... all of this is part of the contingency plan ...

Let's cut to the chase and get down to business .... documents mean nothing ... they are simply being compiled to make a case for DIVISION ....

[Steve Epley]

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

It's becoming obvious that the AMF is courting the ultra-radicals in the UPCI ... nuff said.

Perhaps a merger ahead ????

Most of the ultra cons in the UPC would have little or no desire to join the AMF. The AMF are NOT courters in my opinion a wrong philosophy but there it is. You could come around for years and no one ever mention why don't you join. Most the brethren in the UPC that are leaving have their own arena of fellowship. Many of their meetings are much larger than ours so they see no benefit. Since the formation of the IAM foundation there is an alternate to channel mission funds so they see no need. And honestly most I have spoken with are sick to the gills of any type of organization. No merger is ahead. With the AMC meeting conservative preachers of various stripes and fellowships can meet and have church and fellowship without any politics whatsoever. If you are prophecying this is one that will FAIL.

[Old Paths]

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

OP my Dad was a moderate .... not a conservative .... unless you think having cable television and lax standards is conservative ....

I understand...

[SDG]

Originally Posted by rrford

Evidently nothing is too sacred to discuss. The bantering and humor about the UPC and AMF have always been a prt of this Forum and its predecessor.

I am just amazed that many are so quick to villify and condemn the FMD and its director without any absolute PROOF of what has happened. It is apparent there has been alot of heresay evidence flaunted about. I know that one side has been vocalized quite loudly. As of yet the other side has not been made known publically.

Would it interest anyone to handle this with wisdom and propriety as the scripture suggests? Or would you prefer to continue to publicly castigate the organization and individuals who have offered no defense nor presented their side of the story?

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

Most of the ultra cons in the UPC would have little or no desire to join the AMF. The AMF are NOT courters in my opinion a wrong philosophy but there it is. You could come around for years and no one ever mention why don't you join. Most the brethren in the UPC that are leaving have their own arena of fellowship. Many of their meetings are much larger than ours so they see no benefit. Since the formation of the IAM foundation there is an alternate to channel mission funds so they see no need. And honestly most I have spoken with are sick to the gills of any type of organization. No merger is ahead. With the AMC meeting conservative preachers of various stripes and fellowships can meet and have church and fellowship without any politics whatsoever. If you are prophecying this is one that will FAIL.

Riiiiiiiiigggggggggggggghttttttttttttttttttttttttt tt .... we'll just call it a NETWORK.

[Old Paths]

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

Sorry for the clown comment ... it was in a fit of passion

Thanks.

[Steve Epley]

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

Riiiiiiiiigggggggggggggghttttttttttttttttttttttttt tt .... we'll just call it a NETWORK.

Now that is a good word and better concept. I have that with them now without them leaving the UPC. I could careless if the are in the UPC. If they quit tomorrow it will change nothing. I already fellowship. That is the novel concept company folks just can't comphrehend fellowship is NOT based on a card or acronym.

[Felicity]

Originally Posted by tbpew

just wondering,
can four things be a crux?

Four points meeting -----> Intersection ------- > Crux ???

[SDG]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

Now that is a good word and better concept. I have that with them now without them leaving the UPC. I could careless if the are in the UPC. If they quit tomorrow it will change nothing. I already fellowship. That is the novel concept company folks just can't comphrehend fellowship is NOT based on a card or acronym.

Finally some truth.