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[TRFrance]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

Teke's doctrine acutally denies Jesus has come in the flesh thus he is a anti-christ.

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

This heresy makes him an antichrist.

I dont know if its a good idea to refer to a fellow HolyGhost filled, Jesus name baptized peron "an antichrist".

He's still preaching repentance, people are still getting baptized and filled under his ministry. Seems to me that God is still using the Ethiopian church there.
Seems to me he's still very pro-gospel and pro-Christ, not anti-Christ.

Maybe we should just not be so harsh in our words and our judgment of the situation, and just let the Lord sort it all out.

[Steve Epley]

Originally Posted by TRFrance

I dont know if its a good idea to refer to a fellow HolyGhost filled, Jesus name baptized peron "an antichrist".

He's still preaching repentance, people are still getting baptized and filled under his ministry. Seems to me that God is still using the Ethiopian church there.
Seems to me he's still very pro-gospel and pro-Christ, not anti-Christ.

Maybe we should just not be so harsh in our words and our judgment of the situation, and just let the Lord sort it all out.

Anti literally means INSTEAD of and the Jesus he preaches is NOT the Jesus of the Bible it is an instead of Jesus thus false. The man is a anti-christ.
The people there are being saved in spite of his heretical teaching if they are being saved.

[Apprehended]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

I think some of these doctrines are so complicated I have a hard time following this convoluted doctrine myself I doubt if very few comprehend very little of it and that probably is their salvation. But the teachers are a different story.

True...

In fact, I really doubt if the LEADERS fully understand their doctrine.

[TRFrance]

Well, at this point I'm not going to consign them to hell .
I hope I see them in heaven .

In the meantime, I'll just keep working out my own salvation with fear and trembling, to make sure I get there.

[Steve Epley]

Originally Posted by TRFrance

Well, at this point I'm not going to consign them to hell .
I hope I see them in heaven .

In the meantime, I'll just keep working out my own salvation with fear and trembling, to make sure I get there.

I know this sounds religious but Paul said "let them be accursed." Part of working out my own salvavion is to denounce false teachers that attact the Jesus of the Bible. Teke fits that discription. This is NOT personal it is doctrinal.

[Apprehended]

Originally Posted by TRFrance

Well, at this point I'm not going to consign them to hell .
I hope I see them in heaven .

In the meantime, I'll just keep working out my own salvation with fear and trembling, to make sure I get there.

My attitude exactly.

I am quite busy working on my own salvation while hoping to see all two or thee million in heaven from Ethiopia.

[pelathais]

Originally Posted by TRFrance

This one is news to me too.
I didn't know David Robinson was even Apostolic.
Was he UPC at one point?

No. At one point, I gather, he visited T. D. Jakes' church - long after Jakes had stopped fellowship within the UPC.

It was just a bizarre thing to watch as a small group of "UPCers" quarreled endlessly about why their paragraph on Robinson should stay in the Wikipedia article on the UPC.

[TRFrance]

Originally Posted by pelathais

No. At one point, I gather, he visited T. D. Jakes' church - long after Jakes had stopped fellowship within the UPC.

It was just a bizarre thing to watch as a small group of "UPCers" quarreled endlessly about why their paragraph on Robinson should stay in the Wikipedia article on the UPC.

Thanks for the explanation.

It's absurd to me how so many apostolics seem to want to "claim" certain people as being fellow-apostolics... even if those people themselves aren't claiming to be one of us.