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Old 07-18-2007, 04:44 PM
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This is already happening if the stats are correct (that were on another thread) saying that out of over 9000 licensed preachers there are only 400 under the age of 30...
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Imagine the increased factionalism that this could create ... some would do their best to convince District board members that so and so needs to be BLACKLISTED .... into modern day Salem witch trials
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I'd love to to be a fly on the wall to see each of the District boards meet to discuss and vote on their blacklists ..... when this passes ...

that's what would happen ... they would become glorified gossip sessions in many cases.

Its becoming like organized crime, IMO
Come on DA...this has been happening for decades...

I got a letter saying I was put out under question by the District Board...I was never called in to be asked, I never got a phone call to be asked....I was put out under question but it was really under assumption...

Here's how it went down, The board conveined....my name was brought to the table....someone suggested that there might be a question about my allegence to the manual's articles of faith....they accepted my licence and put me under question saying that I had violated the articles of faith...

Keep in mind, I sent my license in without any charges against me...they never asked for my license....they didn't expect them either as far as I know. I didn't even know I was going to turn them in the morning i woke up and decided to do it later that day....so how could they know?
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Imagine the increased factionalism that this could create ... some would do their best to convince District board members that so and so needs to be BLACKLISTED .... into modern day Salem witch trials
You're correct! GOSSIP will prevail!! Thad will love it!
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Come on DA...this has been happening for decades...

I got a letter saying I was put out under question by the District Board...I was never called in to be asked, I never got a phone call to be asked....I was put out under question but it was really under assumption...

Here's how it went down, The board conveined....my name was brought to the table....someone suggested that there might be a question about my allegence to the manual's articles of faith....they accepted my licence and put me under question saying that I had violated the articles of faith...

Keep in mind, I sent my license in without any charges against me...they never asked for my license....they didn't expect them either as far as I know. I didn't even know I was going to turn them in the morning i woke up and decided to do it later that day....so how could they know?

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Imagine the increased factionalism that this could create ... some would do their best to convince District board members that so and so needs to be BLACKLISTED .... into modern day Salem witch trials
I hate to say it again Bro...but this has been the case for decades!!!
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Come on DA...this has been happening for decades...

I got a letter saying I was put out under question by the District Board...I was never called in to be asked, I never got a phone call to be asked....I was put out under question but it was really under assumption...

Here's how it went down, The board conveined....my name was brought to the table....someone suggested that there might be a question about my allegence to the manual's articles of faith....they accepted my licence and put me under question saying that I had violated the articles of faith...

Keep in mind, I sent my license in without any charges against me...they never asked for my license....they didn't expect them either as far as I know. I didn't even know I was going to turn them in the morning i woke up and decided to do it later that day....so how could they know?
I agree ... that this has happened in the past in many areas where the leaders are weak-minded and CARNAL... but a resolution like this would mandate these GOSSIP SESSIONS in each district without due process.
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OK??

Say it isn't so... Bro....
Funny thing...neighboring UC pastor GH turned his card in a month before mine....and they DID NOT put him under question...LOL...shows the prejudice...

When they put me out under question, my church was no different than at least 50 % of the UPC...maybe more but in this instance I wanted to be CONSERVATIVE!!!
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I agree ... that this has happened in the past in many areas where the leaders are weak-minded and CARNAL... but a resolution like this would mandate these GOSSIP SESSIONS in each district.

Bro...the manual already does is the point...all this change does is define what is "under question" and what is "unbecoming conduct"...the rest is the same as it has been for decades...
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Bro...the manual already does is the point...all this change does is define what is "under question" and what is "unbecoming conduct"...the rest is the same as it has been for decades...
But apparently those under question were not necessarily decided upon as a group ... a pastor could decide who he could fellowship w/ or not w/ UNDER the older by-law ... now the blacklisting process is more formalized ... its mandated by the powers that be .... The local church is once again losing sovereignty under this resolution ... it's as PP said they are becoming more centralized and denominational ... before you know it we'll be calling the DS ... CARDINAL
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