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View Poll Results: Do you believe and/or teach that standards are heaven or hell issues?
Absolutely. I believe and teach that standards are heaven or hell issues. 11 19.30%
I believe that standards should be followed, but they do not necessarily affect salvation. 10 17.54%
I do not believe standards are salvational, but I teach them in compliance with the organization. 3 5.26%
I do not believe or teach that standards are salvational. 21 36.84%
I teach that standards are matters of consecration, but are not salvational. 11 19.30%
I don't know. 1 1.75%
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Old 04-18-2007, 11:39 AM
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Exactly. Holiness and standards are inseparable. If one desires to live holy, then standards are among the fruit thereof. No standards, no holiness. Anyone who keeps the line of standards are not holiness are decievers and liars against the scriptures. All area of life means exactly that.



Actually, you disagree with both of us, seems like.




1Peter 1:15-16 is a commandment for holiness in all areas of conversation. This means that our standards (how we dress, where we go, and what we do) is included in this. As a believer in Jesus Christ, I see it absolutely impossible for a man to be holy on the inside and watch the lies and filth on TV. It is impossible for a woman to have a good attitude and still dress like a man or as if she has no morals. It is impossible for a person to claim modestyand wear jewelry that costs hundreds or thousands of dollars just for appearances.
Bill, I'm willing to bet that if you found a pair of women's pants to fit you, you would refuse to wear them based on the fact that you would be seen as dressing feminine.

It's amazing that when many men cross-dress, they wear women's pants and none of the Apostolics come to their defense and say they AREN'T dressing feminine-like because pants are for men only!

Admit it, Bill. There is no way you would wear women's pants and you know it. Claiming they are really men's apparel is your smokescreen to continually twist scripture to make your doctrine fit into the Word of God. God rejects your twisting of His Word.

Get in the book, Bill. Don't add to it.
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Old 04-18-2007, 11:40 PM
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It is impossible for a person to claim modestyand wear jewelry that costs hundreds or thousands of dollars just for appearances.
Whats ur thoughts on driving lincolns and cadillacs?
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If standards are heaven or hell issues than there would be ONE uniformed standard. Ultra-cons can't even agree on sleeve length and internet and they have the audacity to tell me if I don't follow their "standards" I'll be lost? My suggestion is to lock all the preachers in one room until they come up with one uniformed list of rules.
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If standards are heaven or hell issues than there would be ONE uniformed standard. Ultra-cons can't even agree on sleeve length and internet and they have the audacity to tell me if I don't follow their "standards" I'll be lost? My suggestion is to lock all the preachers in one room until they come up with one uniformed list of rules.
Or until the rapture whatever comes first....

Hmmmm... or maybe just lock them in a closet...
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Or until the rapture whatever comes first....
Even after the rapture, some will still be arguing about it.....
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Even after the rapture, some will still be arguing about it.....
Yeah, but we won't be able to hear them arguing over the noise of the chariots of fire racing competition...
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I didn't read the first post before voting, so disregard please.
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MissB,

I adjusted the numbers to the best of my knowledge.
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MissB,

I adjusted the numbers to the best of my knowledge.
Not good enough.

View Poll Results: Do you believe and/or teach that standards are heaven or hell issues?
Absolutely. I believe and teach that standards are heaven or hell issues.
Actaeon, Brother Price, CupCake, Whole Hearted
2 40.00%
I believe that standards should be followed, but they do not necessarily affect salvation.
DaisyP, Hesetmefree238, seguidordejesus, tndixiemom
1 20.00%
I do not believe standards are salvational, but I teach them in compliance with the organization.
Thumper
1 20.00%
I do not believe or teach that standards are salvational. 0 0%
I teach that standards are matters of consecration, but are not salvational.
Drama Queen, myhaloisintheshop, Oneintheword
1 20.00%
I don't know. 0 0%


Says there are five voters. I see only three preachers (of those I know about). Price, Seguidor, CupCake, and DQ aren't licensed. I don't know about the other ones.

Actaeon, WholeHearted, and Thumper are preachers that I know of.

I'm puzzled why there are about twelve names but only five voters though.
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Not good enough.

View Poll Results: Do you believe and/or teach that standards are heaven or hell issues?
Absolutely. I believe and teach that standards are heaven or hell issues.
Actaeon, Brother Price, CupCake, Whole Hearted
2 40.00%
I believe that standards should be followed, but they do not necessarily affect salvation.
DaisyP, Hesetmefree238, seguidordejesus, tndixiemom
1 20.00%
I do not believe standards are salvational, but I teach them in compliance with the organization.
Thumper
1 20.00%
I do not believe or teach that standards are salvational. 0 0%
I teach that standards are matters of consecration, but are not salvational.
Drama Queen, myhaloisintheshop, Oneintheword
1 20.00%
I don't know. 0 0%


Says there are five voters. I see only three preachers (of those I know about). Price, Seguidor, CupCake, and DQ aren't licensed. I don't know about the other ones.

Actaeon, WholeHearted, and Thumper are preachers that I know of.

I'm puzzled why there are about twelve names but only five voters though.
I highlighted the ones that I was guessing were UPCI preachers. If they aren't, they need to speak up.

I adjusted the numbers, but couldn't deleted the names that shouldn't have voted.
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