Just Trying to Be a Good Father

[Truthseeker]

Coon:

"I asked them if they were fully aware of the fact that they were going to be in trouble with their teachers if they got caught shooting paper hornets...they affirmed that they were indeed aware."

[Barb]

Originally Posted by Coonskinner

Brethren, pray for me.

I confess...I taught my sons to prevail in the paper hornet wars that take place on the playground of their school.

I am not raptured yet.

I, unlike Enoch, have not been translated either.

In fact, some time back, my wife and I had driven separate vehicles to church, and gone to Applebee's after a late Sunday night service. I was in my old, beat up coon hunting truck.

My wife left with my youngest son, while I stayed to take care of the check. Three college age boys had been at the bar for a good while drinking, and had gotten a little rowdy. They went out just a bit ahead of me.

As I was making my way across the mostly deserted parking lot with my son in tow, they came driving up alongside us. They stopped when I got to my old truck and began verbally harassing me and talking in a bellicose manner.

I looked at them and saw a look in their eyes that I had seen before a time or two, and knew that the old devil was putting some very foolish ideas in their minds.

As I stood there, a great wave of compassion for those misled young men swept over me. I knew that if they were to do what they had in mind--jump out of their vehicle and thrash me--that the ehavy hand of God's judgment would come upon them for abusing a man of God.

I couldn't bear the thought of that happening to those boys.

But as the Scripture says, "Where sin abounds, grace doth much more abound."

Grace provided the inspiration...I got my tire tool out of the back of the truck and backed up against my door, looking upon them with all the agape I could muster.

Showing more wisdom than they had been showing up to that point, they threw their car in gear and peeled out of there, accepting the way of escape that mercy had so graciously provided for them in their hour of temptation.

Truly we serve a good God.

LOL!!

Elder, I had a Sunday School teacher in my youth (an elder) who said that there was no excuse for retaliation...none.

Well, the young men took him to task for it, and asked what he would do if someone broke into his house and tried to attack and harm his wife and young son.

I can still hear his answer, "NEVER is there an excuse...even then I would NOT fight back!!"

Yeah, well...many moons later, he and Mrs. S.S. teacher were on a trip and had checked into a motel. She needed something from the car and he was leaning over the balcony watching her.

Suddenly a couple of guys walked up and began to mess with her in a way that spiked hubby's anger...like lightning he came flying down on them and nearly sent them to the hospital.

We can make many claims about "I would never" until we are faced with a situation that we did not anticipate.

All without sin go ahead and cast the stones, but until you are there you don't know.

God love ya, Coonskinner...

[Truthseeker]

Originally Posted by Coonskinner

Would it satisfy Chan, Truthseeker, and old Shep if I just admitted that you three are all more righteous, pure, and holy than I am?

Because I will be happy to do that if you like.

Please.

That is a weak response. One can easy say that when you post something against what others do.


Anyhow, I understand the boy will be boys thing. But to encourage disobedience to a teacher is not smoehting I'm interested. Not that i'd have a seizure if my son was caught something like that, but I wouldn't sit down and show him.



Some of my post had to do with some justifying cracking some heads more then Coons teaching his kids to disregard the teachers authority.


eevn my wife who is pretty laid back wasn't going for it(the hornet thing)

[Barb]

Originally Posted by HeavenlyOne

I've seen you ask a question that had nothing to do with the initial post.

They are doing this on the playground, not in the classroom. Big difference.

I already raised that point, as did Renda or PO or someone...it fell on deaf ears, girl.

This is really like whistling in the graveyard...no one is listening!!

[Truthseeker]

Originally Posted by Barb

LOL!!

Elder, I had a Sunday School teacher in my youth (an elder) who said that there was no excuse for retaliation...none.

Well, the young men took him to task for it, and asked what he would do if someone broke into his house and tried to attack and harm his wife and young son.

I can still hear his answer, "NEVER is there an excuse...even then I would NOT fight back!!"

Yeah, well...many moons later, he and Mrs. S.S. teacher were on a trip and had checked into a motel. She needed something from the car and he was leaning over the balcony watching her.

Suddenly a couple of guys walked up and began to mess with her in a way that spiked hubby's anger...like lightning he came flying down on them and nearly sent them to the hospital.

We can make many claims about "I would never" until we are faced with a situation that we did not anticipate.

All without sin go ahead and cast the stones, but until you are there you don't know.

God love ya, Coonskinner...

It's not what he or I or you have/will do that counts but what would be Christ like.

[Barb]

Originally Posted by Truthseeker

It's not what he or I or you have/will do that counts but what would be Christ like.

Agreed...but is taking an elder to task for a lighthearted post Christlike?! Hmmm...:

[Barb]

Originally Posted by Coonskinner

Would it satisfy Chan, Truthseeker, and old Shep if I just admitted that you three are all more righteous, pure, and holy than I am?

Because I will be happy to do that if you like.

Probably not...

Originally Posted by Felicity

My father never taught me how to make hornets. LOL.

I was never taught how to fight but I could take care of myself if I needed to. I was more prone though to helping someone being bullied on and stood up to a group of boys one time when I was about 8 years old because they were picking on some boy I didn't even know. I told them in no uncertain terms to leave him alone and they gave it up!

My dad never taught me to make paper hornets, and he wouldn't let me join the powderpuff (girls flag football) team in high school. But, he did raise me to know that I should avoid a fight whenever possible while making it clear that I could and should defend myself if pushed to do so. Thank God for a dad who taught his three daughters some good common sense.

Originally Posted by Truthseeker

What happen with follow peace with all men?

It comes from the same Bible that says, as much as lieth in you live peaceably with all men

Originally Posted by Chan

Was he? We don't know one way or the other.

I suppose that, like the Bible says, He was without sin.

It means what the Bible says: "In the days of his flesh, Jesus offered up prayers and supplications, with loud cries and tears, to him who was able to save him from death, and he was heard because of his reverence. 8Although he was a son, he learned obedience through what he suffered. 9And being made perfect, he became the source of eternal salvation to all who obey him."

It means what it says: "And he went down with them and came to Nazareth and was submissive to them. And his mother treasured up all these things in her heart. And Jesus increased in wisdom and in stature and in favor with God and man."

I believe it is wrong to suggest that Jesus was a mischevious boy like so many boys today. I believe it's wrong to suggest that mischief is somehow appropriate.

Well, Chan...

All I can say is, your concept of Jesus is totally unlike mine.

Of course he never sinned. Neither did Coon or his boys or any other boy that flew a paper hornet.

But, the Jesus I know, was in all things nothing unlike his bretheren in the flesh according to Heb. 1. He had every tendency of a normal, natural, boy with every propensity inherent in young boys. I suspect that Jesus probably threw a haymaker or two on another boy that picked on him. Yet, in throwing his haymaker on the end of another boys nose, he never sinned. Neither did he sin if an arm or finger was broken when he overturned the tables in the temple.

Jesus was not a pervert nor was he some freaky humanoid. He was just like the two boys of Coonskinners, growing in wisdom, learning obedience, suffering the consequences of bad judgment. In ALL THINGS....yes, ALL THINGS, he was made like unto his bretheren. As a baby he nursed on a teenagers breast, had to have his diapers changed. As a young boy he behaved like one. As a man he cut a few stink bombs too. Get out of the notion that Jesus was some kind of a freak.

Since he grew up in Nazareth, it would account for the reason that in his own home, he was not received too well. He was too much like all the rest of his friends, neighbors and few enemies for him to be taken real seriously by them that knew him from his earliest childhood.

The Jesus that I know was just like me, yet without sin. He suffered every temptation that I've suffered yet he tells me TO BE ANGRY but don't sin in my anger.... It is an ideal to grow into. Jesus gave us the highwater mark to attain unto, falling short of it is NOT SIN, it is growth.